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Community #1 Posted 21 June 2021 - 11:47 AM

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Get the lowdown on the reworked features of HE shells.

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bgjudge #2 Posted 21 June 2021 - 11:56 AM

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Guide: "How to use HE shells":

DAB THE 2 KEY => JOB DONE! WG HAPPY! WORKS AS INTENDED!

 

 

Do not try to use HE as main source of DMG any more!!! DONT BE DAVE!!!

JUST USE GOLD AMMO!



Vtsuk #3 Posted 21 June 2021 - 11:59 AM

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So... HE turned into AP with extra steps....

 

Noice!



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https://worldoftanks...1-13-HE-shells/

For the Panhard AML Lynx 6x6 and the Panhard EBR 90, it was decreased from 90 to 75 mm, for the Panhard EBR 105—from 105 to 75 mm. We have also increased the dispersion of those guns.

  

Yeah, 0 info about the KEY change. Was it too hard to add some numbers which show the increase?



Smoki_Bandit #5 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:08 PM

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No matter how many players say these changes are nonsense, WG will still pull out some statistics to justify this pointless SPG nerf.

 

Three types of grenades do not make sense because 90% of people will continue to use only and exclusively stun grenades, only a small number will add another without stun, and almost no one will use the third "royal" grenade, especially considering the tragic inaccuracy and RNG at SPG and additionally an arty sound alarm that will allow easier defense against these grenades.

 

When everyone says that the number of artillery is reduced from three to one and that the SPG missions are abolished, which in 99% of cases would satisfy the players, then WG says that the players do not want that, well, dear WG, that is what we would like!



7thNighthawk #6 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:10 PM

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Lynx, already completely outclasssed in almost every regard by the belens machine that is the EBR 75, getting rid of the arguably only real plus it had over the latter.

 

Gotta make dem prems perform a whole tier better than the tech tree turds, just like the Progetto.

 

EDIT: What am I saying, the 75FL already outclassed the EBR 90 so make that two tiers?

Those buffs to the KV-2 and Type 5 will make them perform greatly for taking those side shots, WG. April first came late again.


Edited by 7thNighthawk, 21 June 2021 - 12:13 PM.


Gremlin182 #7 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:12 PM

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Step 1 roll out 1.13 play all my derp type tanks and see how it works, up till now there has been no way to test this change properly.

Step 2 provide feedback

Step 3 if the change breaks HESH complain a lot

 

 



CoreX_CZ #8 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:13 PM

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As much as I agree with nerfs to EBR and Lynx HE ammo, I just don't see need to shoot nerf darts at HE in general. Yes, making damage more predictable is okay, however, the heavy reduction of damage to heavily armoured tanks will only make machines like S. Conq., Chieftain, 279 and basically every other tank with strong turret even harder to deal with (and don't even try to say it should be arty to mess them up, [edited]). The only possible reason why this is happening would be [edited] who can't stand HEing 60TPs, E 100s, etc, and who WG unfortunately hears.


Edited by L3gionaire, 22 June 2021 - 04:07 PM.
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On the other hand another thing that no one was looking for, not to mention the nonsense that high explosive grenades pass through objects !? That contradicts all the laws of physics and warfare !? how now the player destroys objects and when it comes to the tank then it goes through them !? It does not make sense!? HE grenades were to remain HE, only be able to change the physics calculations penetration and damage to another model without having to touch the parameters related to the explosion at the impact of

 

Not to mention that the HE from the SPG works as before and the physics of the damage changes when you shoot from the tank !? Who gets paid to create this kind of nonsense !? HE grenade is always HE grenade no matter which vehicle is shooting !!


Edited by Smoki_Bandit, 21 June 2021 - 12:20 PM.


crs_tzep #10 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:15 PM

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I have sent a ticket!!!

 

Hello,

seen this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Q0PUOCrQI

I have buyed countless premium tanks, and since you change the HE mechanics all of them are affected, so I want my money back on all of them, You can contact me on my mail for the receipts (since they are lots)

So either I get my full money back or I involve the authority form FRANCE and Romania (because from here I made my purchases), I will attach my first purchased tank so you Understand I have all the receipts!!!!

have fun!



luciffer #11 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:16 PM

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View Postcrs_tzep, on 21 June 2021 - 12:15 PM, said:

I have sent a ticket!!!

 

Hello,

seen this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Q0PUOCrQI

I have buyed countless premium tanks, and since you change the HE mechanics all of them are affected, so I want my money back on all of them, You can contact me on my mail for the receipts (since they are lots)

So either I get my full money back or I involve the authority form FRANCE and Romania (because from here I made my purchases), I will attach my first purchased tank so you Understand I have all the receipts!!!!

have fun!

:) you are funny, I like you 



HEshell_from_Norway_ #12 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:16 PM

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Finaly those filfy preloaded HE 60HE's,T110HE4's, T110HE3's, WZ-HE-FT, 705 HE and many more get the nerf they deserve, they singlehandly made this happen, ruining tier 9-10 mm

 


Edited by HEshell_from_Norway_, 21 June 2021 - 12:17 PM.


luciffer #13 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:18 PM

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View Postcrs_tzep, on 21 June 2021 - 12:15 PM, said:

I have sent a ticket!!!

 

Hello,

seen this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Q0PUOCrQI

I have buyed countless premium tanks, and since you change the HE mechanics all of them are affected, so I want my money back on all of them, You can contact me on my mail for the receipts (since they are lots)

So either I get my full money back or I involve the authority form FRANCE and Romania (because from here I made my purchases), I will attach my first purchased tank so you Understand I have all the receipts!!!!

have fun!

Meaning you can not shoot HE anymore and do dmg that reliably without aiming or some other reason?



crs_tzep #14 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:18 PM

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View Postluciffer, on 21 June 2021 - 12:16 PM, said:

:) you are funny, I like you 


We will see ...since the laws favor the consumer, witch I 'am because I payed for something that was modified without my accord !!!!!



Steiner011 #15 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:19 PM

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View Postcrs_tzep, on 21 June 2021 - 11:15 AM, said:

I have sent a ticket!!!

 

Hello,

seen this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Q0PUOCrQI

I have buyed countless premium tanks, and since you change the HE mechanics all of them are affected, so I want my money back on all of them, You can contact me on my mail for the receipts (since they are lots)

So either I get my full money back or I involve the authority form FRANCE and Romania (because from here I made my purchases), I will attach my first purchased tank so you Understand I have all the receipts!!!!

have fun!

 



MeetriX #16 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:20 PM

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"gun mantlet of the M103, which is a screen with very thick armor"

M'kay.

 

"In the new system, HE shells are best suited to the role of tactical shells in the following situations:

  • If you want to reset a base capture.
  • To knock off an enemy’s track*. Beware, it will be a bit harder now because you need to aim at the drive wheel to do so!  Just use AP. It is often faster so you have better chance to hit.
  • To finish off vehicles that are low on HP."

Edited by MeetriX, 21 June 2021 - 12:27 PM.


crs_tzep #17 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:23 PM

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View Postluciffer, on 21 June 2021 - 12:18 PM, said:

Meaning you can not shoot HE anymore and do dmg that reliably without aiming or some other reason?


Meaning my defender should do 200 dmg  vs  anything with HE on a minimum, to use the shell when I need and not spam GOLD left right and center... or on any other tanks for that matter. Chill my friend I have 3 HE shells on defender for example ... but I still want to have full dmg when I need


Edited by crs_tzep, 21 June 2021 - 12:27 PM.


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HansiVonHinten #19 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:30 PM

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I want all my money back!
Wargaming you have changed the game so drastrically it is NOT what I have paid for!
REFUND NOW!

Edited by unhappy__bunny, 21 June 2021 - 01:25 PM.
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scouse_in_the_house #20 Posted 21 June 2021 - 12:35 PM

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Probably the dumbest change they've ever put in and another reason never to play tier 10 ever again.

Seeing as it will now be trivially easy to farm people in tanks with strong turrets can they now give the likes of the 277, 705a, 279e and chieftain cupolas like the t110e5?




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