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Erwin0859 #1 Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:10 AM

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We all know those new tier V tanks : VK 2801, T-50-2 and M24 Chaffee.
They got an expensive repair cost for tier V (around 11430 when the ammo rack explode).
But if you play correctly, you can win 4000 credits with one of them...

Victory!

Battle: Cliff
Saturday 14 January 2012 12:27:25
Vehicle: VK 2801
Experience received: 2 610 (x3 for first victory)
Credits received: 13 626

8 detected
3 damaged
1 destroyed (S-51)

The repair cost was around 9000.
I've use the 10,5cm KwK L/28, with only AP shells.

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What do you think about this score ?  :Smile-playing:

anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB #2 Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:19 AM

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First of all, your Tier 5 Light counts as a Tier 7. And in money terms they don't make money. Just like Tier 10 Heavies.
You really need a good round to make a nice profit


Destroying/damaging a lower tier tank doesn't give as much XP/creds as a higher tier tank.
That S-51 is one tier lower than you (Tier 6, Your VK counts as Tier 7)
Dunno what kind of tanks you damaged.

You share with other players. You spot a tank and a teammember damages it, you split 50/50.

Too many variables...

telamiina #3 Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:08 AM

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I think this needs some buff!

Its still a good tank but new gun or motor would not hurt.

Hinausauto #4 Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:30 PM

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In my opinion the first thing this tank needs is agility.
Before HE nerf you could use this tank in support role to give additional punch and give enemy some HE in their face.
Now you need to go flank the enemy and while you are fast enough for the job you can't turn quick enough in tight spaces.
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azakow #5 Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:54 AM

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Win credits = profit = credits received - repair - ammo - consumables

My average profit per battle, commanding a none platooned LT, using a premium account, doing spotting duties:
M24 Chaffee: 3882
VK2801: 5184
M5 Steward: 6528
Leopard: 6280
AMX 13 90: 12824

The AMX is a LT/MT hybrid and can be used for spotting and fighting duties, hence the larger profit.

Tytalus7 #6 Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:45 PM

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View Postazakow, on 18 January 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

Win credits = profit = credits received - repair - ammo - consumables

My average profit per battle, commanding a none platooned LT, using a premium account, doing spotting duties:
M24 Chaffee: 3882
VK2801: 5184
M5 Steward: 6528
Leopard: 6280
AMX 13 90: 12824

The AMX is a LT/MT hybrid and can be used for spotting and fighting duties, hence the larger profit.

Hmm, 6K average for the Leopard...  now how do you play the Leopard to get that?  My experience so far is that it will get you to a one-shot in no time at all  :Smile-playing:.

However, out of only 19 battles, I'm yet to survive one, but have been on the winning side 15 times... so maybe I am being a useful spotter, I just wish I didn't have to watch more than half the fight sitting on someone elses tank!  :lol:

Any tips?

Tytalus7 #7 Posted 21 January 2012 - 10:48 AM

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Ah, I think I'm getting now:

Steppes: Hide behind a rock in the middle while spotting the odd tank, see where everyone else is going, then head for a gap in the line :

Victory!
Battle: Steppes 21 January 2012 09:38:59
Vehicle: VK 1602 Leopard
Experience received: 1,066 (x2 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 10,947

If it wasn't for a pesky (very) small hillock behine the enemy lines, I would have made it away from the tank destroyer as well!   :angry:

Die and learn...

luciffer #8 Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:40 AM

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Defeat
Battle: Murovanka 26. januar 2012 23:05:17
Vehicle: VK 2801
Experience received: 829
Credits received: 18.804
not premium acc, just driving like mad :)

Dundonian #9 Posted 10 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

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Save your time and effort go grind the french tree if your looking for OP light tank, you dont make money on this tank its a waste of space imo maybe good for clanwars no idea, but imo it needs to be fixed until then il never play again until its changed.

Ealien_ #10 Posted 12 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

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Again cheating on false traverse speed stats. 48 degrees/sec, that's a joke, Patton has 38 and is much more agile..

Gibbo #11 Posted 14 February 2012 - 03:56 PM

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View PostDundonian, on 10 February 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Save your time and effort go grind the french tree if your looking for OP light tank, you dont make money on this tank its a waste of space imo maybe good for clanwars no idea, but imo it needs to be fixed until then il never play again until its changed.

I agree after the patch this tank lost all its benefit, the russian T50-2 is a lot better.
Maybe after the future fix of HE i will try this tank.

Falafel #12 Posted 14 February 2012 - 04:15 PM

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The trick to not to loose money on tier5 light tanks (except AMX12) is that you dont get hit. Only repair costs are high, ammo cost is rarely over 800 (atleast in T-50-2).

Aspecti #13 Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:55 PM

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Victory!
Battle: Prokhorovka 16. helmikuuta 2012 16:07:27
Vehicle: VK 2801
Experience received: 2 224
Credits received: 32 409

I didn't have VK28 before the HE "nerf" so I dunno how good it was before, but if it was any better than it is right now, the nerf was deserved.

azakow #14 Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:28 PM

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View PostTytalus7, on 19 January 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

Any tips?
I recommend this and others by the same author.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=w_8c1yN_B0A

Gibbo #15 Posted 17 February 2012 - 10:54 AM

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View PostAspecti, on 16 February 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Victory!
Battle: Prokhorovka 16. helmikuuta 2012 16:07:27
Vehicle: VK 2801
Experience received: 2 224
Credits received: 32 409

I didn't have VK28 before the HE "nerf" so I dunno how good it was before, but if it was any better than it is right now, the nerf was deserved.

A single match mean nothing. It's the weakest (and the less used) of the three tear 5 light and it really need a buff

Aspecti #16 Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:48 PM

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Well it's the only tier5 light tank I have and I'm having a blast with it, making profit most of the time too. I don't find the VK28 weak at all, it just has a different role than the Chaffee or T-50-2.

coldarchon #17 Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:21 PM

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How to make money with a tier 5 scout:

You run as fast as you can to the enemy base but make a turn 400m or 4 squares in front of it. You evade some shots and then get back to your base. Then you run as fast as you can to the place where the medium tanks usually take a hill or something like that. Get back before you get hit. At this time you usually have scouted 10 to 12 of the enemy tanks. Back at your base you go to the sneaky path that leads to the camping heavies. Hide behind a rock, wall or bush so your allies can shot the enemies you spot, but make sure only one of them is visible because of you. This is the part that gets you most of the credits! Don't think you need to kill anything, you make more money by visual assists.

I got only 52% with my VK and 55% with my T-50 but I can assure you will get a lot of praising and accolades from your team.


By the way you should do some experiments with the guns you use, you get different match-ups for different guns.

Kyphe #18 Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:02 PM

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with the introduction of the AMX13-75 and 90 light tanks the repair bill for the VK28 is just plain ridiculous, and people who say its an end of line you are not supposed to make money can kiss my left dangly

the leo always made money when it was end of line so that just blows that argument out of the water.

Kaney #19 Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:27 PM

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I like this mini-heavy, but the repair bills are insane.

Just got 1300 xp with it..killed 3 (S-51 arty, AMX13-75 and a BDR) damaged a Tiger II and a VK45something...detected several...got some damage, but survived.

2500 credits profit...yay! :blink:

Must kill a Maus with it I presume :Smile-hiding:

Kyphe #20 Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:21 PM

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well they say they are reworking credit incomes, and t5 is getting special attention, so I recon they are sorting out the lights repair bills




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