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Community #1 Posted 05 August 2021 - 08:38 AM

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It's time to shine a spotlight on Soviet medium tanks and explore the branch up to the K-91.

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StinkyStonky #2 Posted 05 August 2021 - 08:46 AM

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The K-91 is one the tanks on my Tier 10 TBC (To Be Collected) list.

 

So it's nice to finally have a TotT that will give me a Tier 10 for 4M credits.

 

30% discount - that's even better than we (now) get on consumables !!!



Simona2k #3 Posted 05 August 2021 - 09:33 AM

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Strong tank?

Geno1isme #4 Posted 05 August 2021 - 09:40 AM

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View PostSimona2k, on 05 August 2021 - 10:33 AM, said:

Strong tank?

Strong gun, camo and viewrange, weak armor, mobility and flexibility.

The last aspect makes it very unpopular overall.



depeci #5 Posted 05 August 2021 - 10:19 AM

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View PostSimona2k, on 05 August 2021 - 09:33 AM, said:

Strong tank?

nope very disgusting tank...



Ciki_el_Tigre #6 Posted 05 August 2021 - 10:32 AM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 05 August 2021 - 09:40 AM, said:

Strong gun, camo and viewrange, weak armor, mobility and flexibility.

The last aspect makes it very unpopular overall.

 

The biggest problem of this tank is the limited angle of rotation of the turret !!!


Edited by Ciki_el_Tigre, 05 August 2021 - 12:07 PM.


rcdsilva #7 Posted 05 August 2021 - 10:58 AM

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The worse T10 Russian tank, and the line is just plein awful. 

Edited by rcdsilva, 05 August 2021 - 10:59 AM.


Gremlin182 #8 Posted 05 August 2021 - 11:08 AM

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K91 bought now I have to wait to see when I might be able to play it.

 

No point at all training a crew for it all that would do is move either one of my 3 skill tier 9 crews into the K91 and then have no crew for the tier 9.

I do have a spare Rudy crew that could be used but its just a basic BIA berlin crew with no other xp.

So the K91 will sit with no crew equipment or consumables till crew 2.0 happens or does not happen.

Its pretty much the same with any new tank I buy there is no point paying out 800 gold to get a crew that will probably never be used.

I could use crewbooks to make them fairly decent but why bother.

I have one 5 skill and three 3 skill russian medium crews and they could be the crews for all my tier 8 9 and 10 Russian Mediums.

 

Shame really K91 looks great I would enjoy playing that.



Ankot #9 Posted 05 August 2021 - 11:23 AM

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Finally! I have almost 300 games in the Obj 416, one of my favourite tanks in this game. I grinded the T-54 and Obj 140 with it before they rearranged the tech tree, now Im grinding towards the K-91. I just love the 416, the camo, the DPM, its awesome. I hope the tier 9 and 10 will be as enjoyable as the 416 because I truly love this tank:) 

 

I'm a bit skeptical about the tier 9, how good is it? The K-91 I'm sure I'll enjoy since its so similar to the 416.



Geno1isme #10 Posted 05 August 2021 - 12:38 PM

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View PostAnkot, on 05 August 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

The K-91 I'm sure I'll enjoy since its so similar to the 416.

Except they aren't that similar in practice: 320 alpha, 2400 DPM and 330 HEAT pen are very strong at T8. At T10, 320 alpha is worst-in-class, 340 HEAT pen is standard and while 3050 DPM is pretty good, it cannot compensate the low alpha. Also 416 has way better camo and even slightly better mobility. The "new" 430-II is also basically the 416 with more pen and HP, but (again) worse camo (compared to the "old" 430-II that had a crappy gun, but decent armor).



birimbao_1 #11 Posted 05 August 2021 - 01:04 PM

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Useless line...  it's a bad tier 10 medium... and a bad tier 10 TD....  Tier 6 is the only good tank...  and tier 8 is nice for gold spammers...

 



SlyMeerkat #12 Posted 05 August 2021 - 01:15 PM

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I have it researched but do i really need it!?

Ankot #13 Posted 05 August 2021 - 01:22 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 05 August 2021 - 11:38 AM, said:

Except they aren't that similar in practice: 320 alpha, 2400 DPM and 330 HEAT pen are very strong at T8. At T10, 320 alpha is worst-in-class, 340 HEAT pen is standard and while 3050 DPM is pretty good, it cannot compensate the low alpha. Also 416 has way better camo and even slightly better mobility. The "new" 430-II is also basically the 416 with more pen and HP, but (again) worse camo (compared to the "old" 430-II that had a crappy gun, but decent armor).

Hmmm I hear you. The DPM is so massive on the K-91 though. I feel like the worst of what you mentioned is the worse camo, as the good camo rating of the 416 is one of its key features and the reason why I've been able to 2 mark it. When you think about it, a 10mm increase in HEAT pen from tier 8 to tier 10 is laughable lol. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'll give both the 430-II and the K-91  a fair shot now that they're on sale and all. Worst case scenario, I'll just transfer my crew back to the 416, as its a keeper anyways. Thanks for the input.



michaltank #14 Posted 05 August 2021 - 01:30 PM

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Thank you for giving the old format back.

Geno1isme #15 Posted 05 August 2021 - 01:49 PM

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View PostAnkot, on 05 August 2021 - 02:22 PM, said:

The DPM is so massive on the K-91 though.

Not really. Several T10 meds have about 3k DPM, most have at least 2500 DPM. And usually way better armor and/or mobility, higher alpha and a fully-rotating turret. Esp. when you compare it to the 140 or Leo 1 it's hard to say something positive about the K-91.

View PostAnkot, on 05 August 2021 - 02:22 PM, said:

I feel like the worst of what you mentioned is the worse camo, as the good camo rating of the 416 is one of its key features and the reason why I've been able to 2 mark it.

Personally I think the biggest issue is the lackluster mobility combined with the turret traverse restrictions. By the time you get into a position the battle has often progressed so much that the position has become useless, and if you're about to get pushed it's hard to relocate without getting wrecked (as you can't return fire while running away). Alternatively they could buff the armor so it becomes more of an assault tank, but that wouldn't really fit the concept of the line. Camo alone won't help much when you're dealing with EBRs and enemy tanks regulary having 500m viewrange.



Ankot #16 Posted 05 August 2021 - 02:06 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 05 August 2021 - 12:49 PM, said:

Not really. Several T10 meds have about 3k DPM, most have at least 2500 DPM. And usually way better armor and/or mobility, higher alpha and a fully-rotating turret. Esp. when you compare it to the 140 or Leo 1 it's hard to say something positive about the K-91.

Personally I think the biggest issue is the lackluster mobility combined with the turret traverse restrictions. By the time you get into a position the battle has often progressed so much that the position has become useless, and if you're about to get pushed it's hard to relocate without getting wrecked (as you can't return fire while running away). Alternatively they could buff the armor so it becomes more of an assault tank, but that wouldn't really fit the concept of the line. Camo alone won't help much when you're dealing with EBRs and enemy tanks regulary having 500m viewrange.

 

I guess, the STB-1 has roughly the same DPM. The EBRs will undoubtedly be a probkem, but that thing has been ruining this game for everyone else ever since it was first put into the game so no surprises there. With the good view range I can probably cap it with a good crew without coated optics, meaning I could fit a turbo if that would help with the mobility issue (?)



Gremlin182 #17 Posted 05 August 2021 - 06:45 PM

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View PostSlyMeerkat, on 05 August 2021 - 01:15 PM, said:

I have it researched but do i really need it!?


My excuse was nothing else to do with the credits.



SlyMeerkat #18 Posted 05 August 2021 - 10:46 PM

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View PostGremlin182, on 05 August 2021 - 05:45 PM, said:


My excuse was nothing else to do with the credits.

True that



pamaleo303 #19 Posted 07 August 2021 - 12:23 PM

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Both Augusts ToTT lines,are propably the two worst lines in the game
Good choice by WG,so we will enjoy our summer in the beaches

Rokim #20 Posted 08 August 2021 - 08:38 PM

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Becouse of rear turret u are just gimped and restricted,almost useless, tank is basically 30-40% worst than any other tier x med. Compare it to let say avrage T62, massive handicap rearturret,this tank is insta 30% worse from start.

Waste of time grinding and than playing it.Pick a random tier X med.this one is insta 30% worst and more useless. 






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