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frange #21 Posted 02 September 2021 - 08:44 PM

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Most likely it is for "free gift" and for filling out the slots in the upcoming christmas lootboxes. "Sorry you didnt get the tier VIII you wanted but hey - you get this lovely tier III POS instead! Now give ur moar money if you want another chance of getting the good stuff you actually wanted!"

saxsan4 #22 Posted 02 September 2021 - 09:38 PM

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Matilda with M22 turret is real look

 

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View PostEagle45_1, on 02 September 2021 - 06:14 PM, said:

I don't know


its sort of real, Australia experimented with turrets from other tanks on mild hulls 



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Hey guys, 

So we were able to dig up some info around the M4A2 T 34 since many of you were asking about its background and historical accuracy. 


In 1943-44, the Central Artillery Design Bureau (CADB) studied the issue of improving the characteristics of tanks in service with the Red Army. This concerned, first of all, weapons, the profile work of the CADB. In addition to initiative projects, the design bureau also worked on instructions from above, in particular, the issue of installing more powerful weapons on tanks supplied under Lend-Lease was raised. This was not the first such case: the design bureau of Factory №92, the backbone of which later moved to CADB, was already working on this topic. It resulted in the appearance of the Matilda and Valentine tanks, rearmed with Soviet guns. The tanks successfully passed the tests, but did not go into production.


The leading role in the work of CADB on the topic of rearmament of tanks was played by engineer A.S. Chasovnikov. In January 1944, he presented a project for re-equipping foreign tanks with domestic weapon systems. One of the proposals was the conversion of the American M4A2 medium tanks for the installation of the turrets of the Soviet T-34 medium tanks. At the same time, the turret was re-equipped with an 85-mm tank gun. Theoretically, CADB already had experience in installing 85-mm guns in standard tank turrets, in addition, in the spring of 1942, a project was developed for an 85-mm ZIK-1 tank gun, which also used, with minimal changes, the F-34 gun cradle.


The idea was considered at a meeting convened on February 15, 1944 at the initiative of Guards Colonel E.A. Kulchitsky. On it, Chasovnikov's projects were criticized, partly fair. At the same time, Chasovnikov's projects should not be viewed as a private initiative. In the same year, 1944, the KV-1s with an 85 mm F-28 cannon entered trials; this work was also supervised by Chasovnikov. The armament has been successfully tested and was recommended for serial production. It did not take place because that there were already very few KV-1s.

 

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M4A2 T-34 

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Matilda LVT

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Pz.Kpfw. M15

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Pz.Kpfw. 35 R

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View PostDwigt, on 03 September 2021 - 02:01 PM, said:

Hey guys, 

So we were able to dig up some info around the M4A2 T 34 since many of you were asking about its background and historical accuracy. 


In 1943-44, the Central Artillery Design Bureau (CADB) studied the issue of improving the characteristics of tanks in service with the Red Army. This concerned, first of all, weapons, the profile work of the CADB. In addition to initiative projects, the design bureau also worked on instructions from above, in particular, the issue of installing more powerful weapons on tanks supplied under Lend-Lease was raised. This was not the first such case: the design bureau of Factory №92, the backbone of which later moved to CADB, was already working on this topic. It resulted in the appearance of the Matilda and Valentine tanks, rearmed with Soviet guns. The tanks successfully passed the tests, but did not go into production.


The leading role in the work of CADB on the topic of rearmament of tanks was played by engineer A.S. Chasovnikov. In January 1944, he presented a project for re-equipping foreign tanks with domestic weapon systems. One of the proposals was the conversion of the American M4A2 medium tanks for the installation of the turrets of the Soviet T-34 medium tanks. At the same time, the turret was re-equipped with an 85-mm tank gun. Theoretically, CADB already had experience in installing 85-mm guns in standard tank turrets, in addition, in the spring of 1942, a project was developed for an 85-mm ZIK-1 tank gun, which also used, with minimal changes, the F-34 gun cradle.


The idea was considered at a meeting convened on February 15, 1944 at the initiative of Guards Colonel E.A. Kulchitsky. On it, Chasovnikov's projects were criticized, partly fair. At the same time, Chasovnikov's projects should not be viewed as a private initiative. In the same year, 1944, the KV-1s with an 85 mm F-28 cannon entered trials; this work was also supervised by Chasovnikov. The armament has been successfully tested and was recommended for serial production. It did not take place because that there were already very few KV-1s.

 

Here are some additional stats 

M4A2 T-34 

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Matilda LVT

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Pz.Kpfw. M15

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Pz.Kpfw. 35 R

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thank you Dwight ,

 

please could you post the same for the Matilda ;) I love history 



Darth_Nox_ #25 Posted 03 September 2021 - 10:44 PM

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Where's tier 6 Black Prince???

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SHOCKER! No pictures of the supposed M4/85 during any stage of """"development"""" at all. Not even a doodle on the back of a packet of sausage rolls. Because nothing came of it, at all. Jesus Christ, this has to be one of those exceptionally crap yet irritating dreams. That 85mm gun in the hexagonal turret? Dream on, fatty. It's at least a Tier VI tank, and it should also be using the 34/85 turret; the hex.turret couldn't house any worthwhile 85mm gun. Ah f*** it let me check these pizza boxes for more doodles I'm sure something exists... oh wait.

 

"The idea was c o n s i d e r e d at a meeting convened on Feb. 15th 1944", which amounts to sweet F.A. And there you have it. Basically it's some Russian bloke getting swilled up on potato vodka then blathering about a crap idea which he'd hurriedly scrawled on some toilet paper while he was sat on the bog; an idea which made absolutely no sense at all once anyone had sobered up a few hours later, given that full-scale production of the 34/85 itself was already well underway.

 

Here's one I've "considered" after a few drinks; a Cruiser II with the Matilda turret and a 17pdr gun. Tier II of course, it's a Cruiser II hull after all. It has just as much historical merit for inclusion as whatever the hell that M4/85 is supposed to be. What? What do you mean "where are the blueprints"?



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View PostDwigt, on 02 September 2021 - 07:56 AM, said:

 Matilda LVT_EN.jpg

The Matilda LVT is a Tier IV British medium tank.

The vehicle also has a decent 75 mm gun. Its standard AP shell penetrates 91 mm on average, while the average penetration of its special APCR shell is 144 mm. It has a damage per shot of 110 HP, an accuracy of 0.43, and an aiming time of 1.7 s. Its engine power is 190 h.p., has a power-to-weight ratio of 8 h.p./t, and can reach a top speed of 24 km/h. Considering its sub-par mobility but excellent gun, this tank is best played at long range where it can realize its firing potential.

 

 

 

0.43acc and British, at long range? Good drugs you guys are on. 

 

 

 

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View Postsaxsan4, on 02 September 2021 - 08:38 PM, said:

Matilda with M22 turret is real look

 

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its sort of real, Australia experimented with turrets from other tanks on mild hulls 

 

Where the hell would Australia get "mild steel" Matilda hulls from? They never, afaik, made any and I don't see the point of transporting prototypes instead of production tanks to Australia. Maybe post war.



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View PostStuffKnight, on 05 September 2021 - 05:46 AM, said:

That 85mm gun in the hexagonal turret? Dream on, fatty. ... the hex.turret couldn't house any worthwhile 85mm gun.

 

Actually the hexagonal turrets could fit the 85mm S-53 gun. Mounting that upgunned turret on a M4A2 hull is a different story. So this tank is at least partially real. Now the last remaining tank is the Matilda with the LVT/M8A1 turret and 3 inch gun.


https://www.tankarchives.ca/2021/05/big-gun-small-turret.html

 

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Edited by Denton_0451, 06 September 2021 - 03:33 PM.


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View PostDenton_0451, on 06 September 2021 - 01:06 PM, said:

 

Actually the hexagonal turrets could fit the 85mm S-53 gun. Mounting that upgunned turret on a M4A2 hull is a different story. So this tank is at least partially real. Now the last remaining tank is the Matilda with the LVT/M8A1 turret and 3 inch gun.


https://www.tankarchives.ca/2021/05/big-gun-small-turret.html

 

 

 

 

Yes, but probably not a crew, and there wouldnt be room to handle the ammo with any kind of efficiency. AFAIK even the regular gun on the T34 left the turret severly cramped.

 

Also, 160 pen and 150 damage is too much at t5. Uptier the damn thing and stop effing up the lower tiers too.



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And the mystery of the Matilda LVT is finally solved. It's completely fake.

 



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View PostDenton_0451, on 09 September 2021 - 04:47 PM, said:

And the mystery of the Matilda LVT is finally solved. It's completely fake.

 

it is real though , if someone put the turret on the tank after the war then it exists 


Edited by saxsan4, 09 September 2021 - 07:04 PM.


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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 September 2021 - 07:04 PM, said:

it is real though , if someone put the turret on the tank after the war then it exists 


I mean technically it exists, yeah, but it's an "exhibition piece" made by some Jimbo, not a combat capable vehicle that was pressed into use in an armed conflict. For starters you couldn't even turn the turret as it doesn't fit the turret ring of the hull.



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View PostDenton_0451, on 09 September 2021 - 07:48 PM, said:


I mean technically it exists, yeah, but it's an "exhibition piece" made by some Jimbo, not a combat capable vehicle that was pressed into use in an armed conflict. For starters you couldn't even turn the turret as it doesn't fit the turret ring of the hull.

Pfft, 137 cm or 138 cm... percentually that is nothing! Just use slightly bigger ball bearings! :izmena:



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View PostDenton_0451, on 09 September 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:


I mean technically it exists, yeah, but it's an "exhibition piece" made by some Jimbo, not a combat capable vehicle that was pressed into use in an armed conflict. For starters you couldn't even turn the turret as it doesn't fit the turret ring of the hull.

there are tanks in the game that don't even exist accept in WG head like the pregoetto 46 , there is a tank , I forgot its name that only had a wooden gun, not even a real one, so an 'exhibition' piece is good enough for me 

 

 



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View PostDenton_0451, on 09 September 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:


I mean technically it exists, yeah, but it's an "exhibition piece" made by some Jimbo, not a combat capable vehicle that was pressed into use in an armed conflict. For starters you couldn't even turn the turret as it doesn't fit the turret ring of the hull.

 

Um. When has that stopped WG.

 


Edited by captainpigg, 10 September 2021 - 06:56 AM.


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How do you fit 85mm on T-34-76 turret and why it has more pen than normal 85mm?

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View PostDenton_0451, on 09 September 2021 - 05:47 PM, said:

And the mystery of the Matilda LVT is finally solved. It's completely fake.

 

 

How is it fake? Its real.



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View Postsaxsan4, on 02 September 2021 - 01:22 PM, said:

or the these

 

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First Image is PzKpfw MK II 748(e) Oswald, but second image is Cursed tank because in Matilda Hull from image can fit two man like L3/35 CC and image is Photoshop-ed 

 

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And yes second image you can see only when you want to Quote my comment or comment of saxsan4

 



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View PostStig_Stigma, on 24 September 2021 - 02:46 PM, said:

 

How is it fake? Its real.


The tank on the real picture doesn't even have the M8 Scott turret.



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View PostDwigt, on 02 September 2021 - 08:56 AM, said:

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Four new low tier vehicles are on their way to the Supertest:

 

M4A2-T-34_eng.jpg

The M4A2 T-34 is a Tier V Soviet medium tank.

It is equipped with a powerful 85 mm gun that causes 160 damage per shot. Its standard AP shell penetrates 150 mm on average, while the average penetration of its special APCR shell is 196 mm. The gun has an accuracy of 0.38, aiming time of 2.7 s, and reload time of 6 s, making this tank's role clear: dealing damage.
The vehicle's durability is 630 HP. The thickness of the frontal armor plate reaches up to 63.5 mm and the frontal projection of the turret up to 52 mm. Its engine power is 420 h.p. and has a top speed of 52 km/h. The view range is 350 m.

 

 

Matilda LVT_EN.jpg

The Matilda LVT is a Tier IV British medium tank.

The vehicle also has a decent 75 mm gun. Its standard AP shell penetrates 91 mm on average, while the average penetration of its special APCR shell is 144 mm. It has a damage per shot of 110 HP, an accuracy of 0.43, and an aiming time of 1.7 s. Its engine power is 190 h.p., has a power-to-weight ratio of 8 h.p./t, and can reach a top speed of 24 km/h. Considering its sub-par mobility but excellent gun, this tank is best played at long range where it can realize its firing potential.

 

 

Pz.Kpfw.M15_EN.jpg

The Pz.Kpfw. M15 is a Tier III German light tank.

It is equipped with a 37 mm gun. Its damage per shot is 40 HP, and it can penetrate armor up to 42 mm with a standard AP shell and up to 74 mm with a special APCR shell. The gun has an accuracy of 0.41, a loading time of 2.3 s, and an aiming time of 1.7 s. The engine power is 250 h.p., with a power-to-weight ratio of 16 h.p./t, and it can reach a top speed of 40 km/h.

 

 

PzKpfw35R_eng.jpg

The Pz.Kpfw. 35 R is a Tier II German light tank.

Its damage per shot is 55 HP, and it can penetrate armor up to 50 mm with a standard AP shell and up to 78 mm with a special AP shell. The gun has an accuracy of 0.48, a loading time of 2.8 s, and an aiming time of 2.8 s. The engine power is 82 h.p., with a power-to-weight ratio of 7.7 h.p./t, and can reach a top speed of 23 km/h.

 

 

Let us know what do you think about those new additions in the comments below.

Keep in mind that stats are not finale and may change on the supertest.

Roll out!

 

What about the Waffenträger auf. E-100?

I mean- that boy is out there, just waiting to be added again.

Perhaps the mighty OverPowered 279(e) is scared? xD

 







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