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CIint_Beastwood #1 Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:12 PM

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I worked towards german arty line in a smooth fashion,no rush,just doing my own thing and i decided to take a look at 9 and 10 arty and they use the same gun,same pen and same damage as tier 8 arties.

 

I dont understand,are they doing same or more damage with the same gun? Reason i am asking is because if its the same gun on tier 10 and tier 8 i dont see any reason working towards 9 and 10.



baratoz1701 #2 Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:13 PM

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View PostCIint_Beastwood, on 15 September 2021 - 06:12 PM, said:

I worked towards german arty line in a smooth fashion,no rush,just doing my own thing and i decided to take a look at 9 and 10 arty and they use the same gun,same pen and same damage as tier 8 arties.

 

I dont understand,are they doing same or more damage with the same gun? Reason i am asking is because if its the same gun on tier 10 and tier 8 i dont see any reason working towards 9 and 10.

Well there's more HP if you get into... lets say a full tier 10 game, so more chance for you to finish certain missions



wAr_God_11 #3 Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:16 PM

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real question is, is there any reason to keep arty in game.

CIint_Beastwood #4 Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:17 PM

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View Postbaratoz1701, on 15 September 2021 - 07:13 PM, said:

Well there's more HP if you get into... lets say a full tier 10 game, so more chance for you to finish certain missions

Thank you. That is not enough reason for me to go past 8. Thank you for saving my time.



baratoz1701 #5 Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:27 PM

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View PostCIint_Beastwood, on 15 September 2021 - 06:17 PM, said:

Thank you. That is not enough reason for me to go past 8. Thank you for saving my time.

I had the french tier 10 arty ages ago,  I hated it. Not played a tier 10 arty battle in years, all the missions that I personally need to do can be done with a tier 8/9. Some people actually play arty in ranked though



Olias_0f_Sunhillow #6 Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:29 PM

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Should've gone down the Yank arty line, it peaks at tier 9 with the M53/M55.

With the German line, the G.W.Panther, in my opinion, is the one to go for. And stick with.



CIint_Beastwood #7 Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:34 PM

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View PostOlias_0f_Sunhillow, on 15 September 2021 - 07:29 PM, said:

Should've gone down the Yank arty line, it peaks at tier 9 with the M53/M55.

With the German line, the G.W.Panther, in my opinion, is the one to go for. And stick with.

Yeah,im enjoying the Panther. Maybe there are other good arties at the same tier but i cant be bothered to farm another tree. Ill just stick with this unless they change 9's and 10's. If they...

 

 



Orkbert #8 Posted 15 September 2021 - 11:01 PM

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View PostCIint_Beastwood, on 15 September 2021 - 07:12 PM, said:

I worked towards german arty line in a smooth fashion,no rush,just doing my own thing and i decided to take a look at 9 and 10 arty and they use the same gun,same pen and same damage as tier 8 arties.

 

I dont understand,are they doing same or more damage with the same gun? Reason i am asking is because if its the same gun on tier 10 and tier 8 i dont see any reason working towards 9 and 10.

 

Well, for what it's worth the tierXI and X do reload a bit faster, have a better dispersion and the GWE100 does even get a better aiming time. And they both have stronger engines, so they are a bit better when it comes to relocating (especially the tierIX is comparatively agile but don't expect any wonders)

 

Although keep in mind that the better reload, mobility etc might be initially lost if you retrain the crew for credits. (if your crew was 100% on the GWTiger(P) but is retrained to 90% on the GWTiger then they will not reload much faster until they are back to 100%)

 

Oh, and lets not forget that getting the GWTiger would cost you around one and a half million credits (assuming crew retraining and that you sell the GWTiger(P)) and then stepping to the GWE100 will cost way over four million credits (again assuming that you would sell the tierIX to get the tierX)

 

Which, with your current battle count might be quite a drain on your credit balance (and don't forget that the repair costs are of course also higher) So I guess it might be advisable for you to keep the tierVIII for a while and train/grind the crew on it (as a tierVIII it is also an option for Frontline which will soon start again)



wibuinha #9 Posted 15 September 2021 - 11:33 PM

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Having a T10 SPG i tell you that there is no interest on starting an SPG AT ALL!

Orkbert #10 Posted 16 September 2021 - 12:19 AM

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View Postwibuinha, on 15 September 2021 - 11:33 PM, said:

Having a T10 SPG i tell you that there is no interest on starting an SPG AT ALL!

 

Yet you still have a battle with an SPG on this secondary account of yours....



jack_timber #11 Posted 16 September 2021 - 06:41 AM

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Well I rather like my T10 arty and as a bonus you can also get into GBs.

Tiger P, at T8, is still one of my favourites.

All down to personal choice, never been persuaded by others as to what to play. ;)



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View PostCIint_Beastwood, on 15 September 2021 - 07:12 PM, said:

I worked towards german arty line in a smooth fashion,no rush,just doing my own thing and i decided to take a look at 9 and 10 arty and they use the same gun,same pen and same damage as tier 8 arties.

 

I dont understand,are they doing same or more damage with the same gun? Reason i am asking is because if its the same gun on tier 10 and tier 8 i dont see any reason working towards 9 and 10.

 

sometimes playing tier 10 arty is good for the nerves.

but you should get a Conqueror, it can make shells almost fly backwards to hit people in "arty safe" positions. in comparison, GW E100, to my great regret, seems not able to hit anything.



PowJay #13 Posted 16 September 2021 - 08:06 AM

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I have (under advisement) stopped at the M53/55 but, tbh, the M40/43 did a good job of completing the T-55a set of Personal Missions before Stun was introduced. 

 

I was intrigued by the CGC UK tier X and owned it for a while. This is my spectacular stats in it. 

 

 

On the basis of damage and WR (what else is there?), that is the worst tier X I have ever had

 

As I do try to (and often do) complete Personal Missions, it is certainly helpful to climb to higher tiers but, for anyone else reading, I am not the only one to suggest using SPGs with stock guns for a higher RoF and better stun figures. This is how I have finished some of the harder missions for the Object. I don't have the tank, but I have completed all 15 Primary objectives. 



Geno1isme #14 Posted 16 September 2021 - 09:14 AM

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View PostCIint_Beastwood, on 15 September 2021 - 08:12 PM, said:

I dont understand,are they doing same or more damage with the same gun? Reason i am asking is because if its the same gun on tier 10 and tier 8 i dont see any reason working towards 9 and 10.

They aim faster, reload faster and are more accurate, so you can fire more shots per battle. Also they have some mobility, so it is possible to relocate. I found esp. the GW Tiger to be a major upgrade compared to the Tiger P, unfortunately it can run out of shells pretty fast.


Edited by Geno1isme, 16 September 2021 - 10:25 AM.


ilmavarvas #15 Posted 16 September 2021 - 10:11 AM

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View PostCIint_Beastwood, on 15 September 2021 - 07:12 PM, said:

I worked towards german arty line in a smooth fashion,no rush,just doing my own thing and i decided to take a look at 9 and 10 arty and they use the same gun,same pen and same damage as tier 8 arties.

 

I dont understand,are they doing same or more damage with the same gun? Reason i am asking is because if its the same gun on tier 10 and tier 8 i dont see any reason working towards 9 and 10.

 

Every tier 9 arty is better than their tier 8 counterpart, well maybe frenchie isn't, but all others are.



beercritch #16 Posted 16 September 2021 - 10:20 AM

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Its not just Arty. 

 

IF you dont clan wars and you dont do ranked then you dont need any tier 10 tanks. 

 

AND before the changes to Frontlines this time you didnt even need any tier 9 tanks.

 

So if you asked me 6 months ago I would have said you dont need any tank passed tier 8 if you play for fun, but now you need a small smattering of tier 9s for frontline, and well, if arty is your thing then get one at tier 9 (as covered already the American is IMHO the pick of the bunch)



malairt #17 Posted 16 September 2021 - 10:25 AM

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British tier 5 (Bishop):  high arc, short range, for those close encounters

American tier 6 (M44): just all round excellent.  hits harder, more often, than my tier 10

French tier 8 (155-51): fabulously manoeuvrable, pretty accurate

Soviet tier 10 (Object 261): pretty accurate, short reload, reasonable relocation, only 20 shells



ilmavarvas #18 Posted 16 September 2021 - 11:13 AM

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One big reason to go for tier 9 and 10 arties are the salty tears of unicums and pro-players in their Chieftains / 279's / you name it when you slap them with arty, ok the damage is just 2-300 now, but it's still enough to unleash Nile size river of tears. 

Sirebellus #19 Posted 16 September 2021 - 11:23 AM

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Only two T10 SPGs worth playing… and the German line isn’t one of them

British CGC is still good to play and the USSR Obj 261 is still accurate, 

 

But really the T10’s don’t give you anything more than you get at lower tiers… many of the daily missions (damage lots of tanks, make lots of critical hits) are really easy to do in SPGs because they can shoot all over the map - but you don’t need to be playing higher tiers for that, T5 and T6 arty will do the trick



mpf1959 #20 Posted 16 September 2021 - 11:26 AM

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Is there any reason to go past VIII arty?

The GWE-100 :B






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