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StinkyStonky #1 Posted 23 November 2021 - 08:19 PM

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After a battle a few minutes ago I had reason to check out a player, but rather than getting his Player details I got a popup saying "Player Details Locked".

 

The alleged name was different from the results (so he was anonymised) and the name (Schluesselhaendchen) apparently translates to "Holding the key) (or something like that) from German.

 

Does anyone know what this is ?  Presumably a press or employee account ?



Balc0ra #2 Posted 23 November 2021 - 08:25 PM

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Press account, review account for a tank, or a youtube account. As in accounts that YouTubers use to get access to tech tree tanks they don't have on their main for content etc. 

BonjiOrongji #3 Posted 23 November 2021 - 08:49 PM

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Could be the cc account of the player "Keyhand" ( schlüsselhand in german or more silly schlüsselhändchen).

 

He is german, an WG employee and streams on WGs offical channel to my knowledge.

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 23 November 2021 - 08:24 PM, said:

German forum found him as well, but my German is not very good

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/773672-der-spieler-der-nicht-existierte/

 

Completely different person/account.



StinkyStonky #4 Posted 23 November 2021 - 08:59 PM

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View PostBonjiOrongji, on 23 November 2021 - 07:49 PM, said:

Could be the cc account of the player "Keyhand"

 

That would also explain the "impossible" things he did.

 



gunslingerXXX #5 Posted 23 November 2021 - 09:01 PM

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View PostBonjiOrongji, on 23 November 2021 - 08:49 PM, said:

Could be the cc account of the player "Keyhand" ( schlüsselhand in german or more silly schlüsselhändchen).

 

He is german, an WG employee and streams on WGs offical channel to my knowledge.

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Completely different person/account.

Ah I see now, thnx



arthurwellsley #6 Posted 24 November 2021 - 09:55 AM

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View PostStinkyStonky, on 23 November 2021 - 07:59 PM, said:

 

That would also explain the "impossible" things he did.

 

Got a replay?



undutchable80 #7 Posted 24 November 2021 - 10:20 AM

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View PostStinkyStonky, on 23 November 2021 - 08:19 PM, said:

After a battle a few minutes ago I had reason to check out a player, but rather than getting his Player details I got a popup saying "Player Details Locked".

 

The alleged name was different from the results (so he was anonymised) and the name (Schluesselhaendchen) apparently translates to "Holding the key) (or something like that) from German.

 

Does anyone know what this is ?  Presumably a press or employee account ?

Yes, that is Keyhand special account. Watched him play a charity stream using that account yesterday; full gold loadouts and full purple equipments on all the tanks he was playing...



HeatResistantBFG #8 Posted 24 November 2021 - 11:19 AM

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To confirm, yes it's what we call a "press account" and yes it is indeed our DE VCM Keyhand :)

 

If I was to guess, the "impossible" things he did are be very good at the game, he has a habit of doing that. 



StinkyStonky #9 Posted 24 November 2021 - 11:28 AM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 24 November 2021 - 08:55 AM, said:

 

Got a replay?

I do but there's no need to share.  I was never suggesting any impropriety, just the frustration at being hit (twice) by an invisible super heavy just a few squares away from me.
A friendly neighbourhood unicorn spoke to Keyhand and they swapped screen shots.

I was trading with a different tank at the time and was relatively safe from him and then suddenly got hit by an invisible VK 72.01 (K) (my front track wheel was sticking out), so I adjusted my positioning to sidescraping (I was sharing the spot with another tank (Maus I think) so side scraping wasn't my first choice as it was "inconsiderate").  Unfortunately (and unknown to me) a small part of my cheek was still exposed to the VK and so he could still hit and pen me even when I couldn't see him.

 

View Postundutchable80, on 24 November 2021 - 09:20 AM, said:

Watched him play a charity stream using that account yesterday; full gold loadouts and full purple equipments on all the tanks he was playing...

Well the noob in the 277 that he killed on Ruinberg ... that was me :teethhappy:

 

But this thread is/was/should be about "Player Details Locked".

I guess when you have an 11,600 PR player platooning with another "good" player (don't know who, told they are also a WG employee - Eekeeboo perhaps ?) using special accounts (full everything) then I'd imagine that account would have some pretty extreme stats and WG probably (correctly) think it best to hide that from the community rather than have us see it and go nuts.

I do remember seeing Iyouxin streaming with another top player (can't remember who - another [FAME] player maybe) and they were trying to get a 100% WR session.  I think they dropped one but managed 19/20 or something like that.



Lt_Pfaffenbach #10 Posted 24 November 2021 - 11:46 AM

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View PostHeatResistantBFG, on 24 November 2021 - 11:19 AM, said:

 

If I was to guess, the "impossible" things he did are be very good at the game, he has a habit of doing that. 

unfortunately he doesnt do those things when streaming, so hard to validate for me.


Edited by Lt_Pfaffenbach, 24 November 2021 - 11:46 AM.


Keyhand #11 Posted 24 November 2021 - 12:21 PM

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View PostStinkyStonky, on 23 November 2021 - 08:19 PM, said:

After a battle a few minutes ago I had reason to check out a player, but rather than getting his Player details I got a popup saying "Player Details Locked".

 

The alleged name was different from the results (so he was anonymised) and the name (Schluesselhaendchen) apparently translates to "Holding the key) (or something like that) from German.

 

Does anyone know what this is ?  Presumably a press or employee account ?



Caught me :harp:
"Schluesselhaendchen", as BonjiOrongji correctly said, is a slightly silly translation of "Keyhand"



Erwin_Von_Braun #12 Posted 24 November 2021 - 12:23 PM

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TWO WG staff posting on a Gameplay thread?

TO my knowledge, this has never happened - seems someone has rattled the cage a little too hard..............:sceptic:

Wonder if there is something to hide?

 



Rubbellos #13 Posted 24 November 2021 - 01:20 PM

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View PostStinkyStonky, on 24 November 2021 - 11:28 AM, said:

I do but there's no need to share.  I was never suggesting any impropriety, just the frustration at being hit (twice) by an invisible super heavy just a few squares away from me.
A friendly neighbourhood unicorn spoke to Keyhand and they swapped screen shots.

I was trading with a different tank at the time and was relatively safe from him and then suddenly got hit by an invisible VK 72.01 (K) (my front track wheel was sticking out), so I adjusted my positioning to sidescraping (I was sharing the spot with another tank (Maus I think) so side scraping wasn't my first choice as it was "inconsiderate").  Unfortunately (and unknown to me) a small part of my cheek was still exposed to the VK and so he could still hit and pen me even when I couldn't see him.

 

So it not "impossible" anymore?


Edited by Rubbellos, 24 November 2021 - 01:21 PM.


Zapfhan #14 Posted 24 November 2021 - 01:40 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 24 November 2021 - 11:23 AM, said:

TWO WG staff posting on a Gameplay thread?

TO my knowledge, this has never happened - seems someone has rattled the cage a little too hard..............:sceptic:

Wonder if there is something to hide?

 

 

Mhh let me know if you find out what we want to hide, im curious myself. :hiding:



StinkyStonky #15 Posted 24 November 2021 - 05:51 PM

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View PostRubbellos, on 24 November 2021 - 12:20 PM, said:

 

So it not "impossible" anymore?

No that will always be the case, I can't change the past.

When I first got hit by an invisible VK 72.01 (K), my react was "WTF".
The invisible VK (that became visible shortly after) was further around the corner than the tank I was fighting, so I adjusted my tank position to a side scrape so that he wouldn't be able to get me.
When he then got me again, my reaction was "WTF - How TF did he do that !!!!"

I know the VK is a clan wars reward and not the first choice for most people, so I knew the player would be no slouch.  I was shocked when WG told me "Bzzzzzttt - ACCESS DENIED - That Information Is Top Secret".
I'd never seen that before, so I came on here to show what I'd seen and to discuss it.

Finding out that it was a [FAME] player explained the "Impossible" things I saw.  Have you never watched or played against FAME ?  They do "impossible" things all the time !

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View PostZapfhan, on 24 November 2021 - 12:40 PM, said:

 

Mhh let me know if you find out what we want to hide, im curious myself. :hiding:

Well there are the stats on Keyhand's Schluesselhaendchen account.  Those are being hidden by you (WarGaming).

 



jabster #16 Posted 24 November 2021 - 05:57 PM

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My take on it, WG employees using accounts that give them everything handed on a plate isn’t a good look. But heh, as long as they’re enjoying it.

 



Jumping_Turtle #17 Posted 24 November 2021 - 06:31 PM

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But why use a press acount when he has the VK on his own acount also ?

Keyhand #18 Posted 24 November 2021 - 06:42 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 24 November 2021 - 06:31 PM, said:

But why use a press acount when he has the VK on his own acount also ?



Because on my personal Account, it is threemarked already ;)



StinkyStonky #19 Posted 24 November 2021 - 06:44 PM

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View Postjabster, on 24 November 2021 - 04:57 PM, said:

My take on it, WG employees using accounts that give them everything handed on a plate isn’t a good look.

View PostJumping_Turtle, on 24 November 2021 - 05:31 PM, said:

But why use a press acount when he has the VK on his own acount also ?

Undutchable told us it was a Charity stream, so who knows.  Perhaps he did some funky stuff with tanks he doesn't have.

View Postundutchable80, on 24 November 2021 - 09:20 AM, said:

Yes, that is Keyhand special account. Watched him play a charity stream using that account yesterday; full gold loadouts and full purple equipments on all the tanks he was playing...



I'm not bothered that these accounts exist or get used or even that their stats are kept secret.  What bothers me is the mystery of what's going on.  That's (mostly) all solved now.

Oh and BTW, here's the first time I ever played against [FAME] in Strongholds (Keyhand was in that battle too).  It's worth watching ...

 



Jumping_Turtle #20 Posted 24 November 2021 - 06:50 PM

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View PostKeyhand, on 24 November 2021 - 06:42 PM, said:



Because on my personal Account, it is threemarked already ;)

 

So you use a press acount with everything unlocked and every skill added to 3 mark it again ..... 

 

ahh well, I have my thoughts on that. I can understand in some cases these press acounts are used, but being bored with your own acound isnt one of them.

But what I think about it isnt going to change anything so enjoy it.


Edited by Jumping_Turtle, 24 November 2021 - 06:55 PM.





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