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What's your efficiency rating?

Nathaniak's Photo Nathaniak 21 Jan 2012

1023.54

To bh honest, learning that I'm average is better than I expected  :Smile_great:
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JohnDask's Photo JohnDask 21 Jan 2012

1461.3

Better than I expected  :Smile_great:
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zbing's Photo zbing 21 Jan 2012

1291.3 rounded atm. Well, it's kinda OK... I guess lack of base cap points (only 0.88 per match) is what's really dragging me a little bit lower than expected in this stats.
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RainbowDash_GER's Photo RainbowDash_GER 21 Jan 2012

 Stieger11, on 21 January 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

You mean the average tank lvl?
I think its does nothing with the number of the played battles of the tanks.
It depends on the number of battles played with the tiers. Let's say someone has a loltraktor, a löwe and a T1 cunningham in his profile, the average tank level isn't just (1+1+8)/3=3.33. It takes the amount of battles played with the tiers into account. If the player with the loltraktor, the löwe and the T1 cunningham has played only 10 battles each with the loltraktor and the T1 cunningham but 1k battles with his löwe, then the average tank level would be (20+8000)/1020 = 7.86 instead of 3.33.
Hope you understoof it. You probably noticed that my efficiency rating in explaining things is ~50 - 100 :P

 jerrycan, on 21 January 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

Try to play solely tier 9+ tanks without premium account and you'll learn it quickly :P
I still don't get it... Playing tier 9+ tanks without premium account is what I do most of the time :P
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Tank_Killer1's Photo Tank_Killer1 21 Jan 2012

1656.47 :)
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meuhbat's Photo meuhbat 21 Jan 2012

1736.21
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Afghane's Photo Afghane 21 Jan 2012

Imagine this:

A player plays 10 games rated: 10,10,10,10,10,1 (PC crashes),5,5,7,7 (a string of losses). His average is 7.5
A player plays 3 games rated: 10, 8, 7. His average is 8.3
Who's better? Extrapolate this to 5000 battles vs 100 and you'll see how irrelevant such statistics are. And easy to manipulate.

IMHO the ONLY true statistic on a tank that really shows how good you are is Damage per Battle. And followed by Exp per Battle.
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emu87's Photo emu87 21 Jan 2012

2620
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RainbowDash_GER's Photo RainbowDash_GER 21 Jan 2012

 Afghane, on 21 January 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Imagine this:

A player plays 10 games rated: 10,10,10,10,10,1 (PC crashes),5,5,7,7 (a string of losses). His average is 7.5
A player plays 3 games rated: 10, 8, 7. His average is 8.3
Who's better? Extrapolate this to 5000 battles vs 100 and you'll see how irrelevant such statistics are. And easy to manipulate.

IMHO the ONLY true statistic on a tank that really shows how good you are is Damage per Battle. And followed by Exp per Battle.
What??? What kind of rating for games are you talking about?? In case you are talking about the average tier (which you appearently misunderstood): The player with the 3 games will have a lower efficiency rating if they both have the same average damage and so on.
Exp per battle is completely worthless because you can't tell whether a player used premium or not. If it only displayed the value without premium, okay, but the way it is now it's meaningless.
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 emu87, on 21 January 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

2620
Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool this is fucking great!
Are you playing random battles (with or without platoons?), TCs or CWs mainly? What about goldammo/consumables? :o
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Doolio's Photo Doolio 21 Jan 2012

 Afghane, on 21 January 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Imagine this:

A player plays 10 games rated: 10,10,10,10,10,1 (PC crashes),5,5,7,7 (a string of losses). His average is 7.5
A player plays 3 games rated: 10, 8, 7. His average is 8.3
Who's better? Extrapolate this to 5000 battles vs 100 and you'll see how irrelevant such statistics are. And easy to manipulate.

IMHO the ONLY true statistic on a tank that really shows how good you are is Damage per Battle. And followed by Exp per Battle.
Every statistic is deceiving, it just can point to something, but it's not engraved in stone. DPB is as much deceiving as anything else, what if you play scout, or play in platoons or CW only... Exp per battle, same thing, not to mention the difference between premium and non premium exp gain.
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 RainbowDash_GER, on 21 January 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool this is fucking great!
Are you playing random battles (with or without platoons?), TCs or CWs mainly? What about goldammo/consumables? :o

No gold ammo or consumables. 85+% unplatooned random, rest mix of platoon and non random game modes.
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Kvetoslav's Photo Kvetoslav 21 Jan 2012

This calculator is flawed. Here's a small example using my modified stats:
Player 1:
Average destroyed in the battle: 1.31
Average damage in the battle:  1200
Average spotted in the battle:  0.74
Average defense points in the battle:  1.51
Average captured points in the battle: 1.23
Average tank lvl: 7
Efficiency rating: 1331.24

Player 2:
Average destroyed in the battle: 1.31
Average damage in the battle:  550
Average spotted in the battle:  0.74
Average defense points in the battle:  1.51
Average captured points in the battle: 1.23
Average tank lvl: 5
Efficiency rating: 1161.5

As you can see, the average damage is close to the amount of HP of medium tanks, even higher than that in the second case, but Player 2's efficiency rating is 169.74 lower despite having better damage dealt / own HP ratio. This calculator favors high tier heavy tanks, TD's and arty. The second problem is that it doesn't take win ratio into account.
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 emu87, on 21 January 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

No gold ammo or consumables. 85+% unplatooned random, rest mix of platoon and non random game modes.
:o

I thought that individual effort in randoms could bring you far less than what you achieved.
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Stieger11's Photo Stieger11 21 Jan 2012

 RainbowDash_GER, on 21 January 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

It depends on the number of battles played with the tiers. Let's say someone has a loltraktor, a löwe and a T1 cunningham in his profile, the average tank level isn't just (1+1+8)/3=3.33. It takes the amount of battles played with the tiers into account. If the player with the loltraktor, the löwe and the T1 cunningham has played only 10 battles each with the loltraktor and the T1 cunningham but 1k battles with his löwe, then the average tank level would be (20+8000)/1020 = 7.86 instead of 3.33.
Hope you understoof it. You probably noticed that my efficiency rating in explaining things is ~50 - 100 :P


I still don't get it... Playing tier 9+ tanks without premium account is what I do most of the time :P

If its work that way, i got it. (i thought avg tank lvl counts only your tanks levels)

Ohh and that emu87 guy has an interesting stat (watch ingame). He has very few low tier tanks, and a lot of high tier and top tanks. :blink:
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Kvetoslav's Photo Kvetoslav 21 Jan 2012

 emu87, on 21 January 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

No gold ammo or consumables. 85+% unplatooned random, rest mix of platoon and non random game modes.
Did you sell your soul to Satan to get that insane skill?
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E57's Photo E57 21 Jan 2012

 Kvetoslav, on 21 January 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:



As you can see, the average damage is close to the amount of HP of medium tanks, even higher than that in the second case, but Player 2's efficiency rating is 169.74 lower despite having better damage dealt / own HP ratio. This calculator favors high tier heavy tanks, TD's and arty. The second problem is that it doesn't take win ratio into account.

Yep, which is why I wouldn't both with it too much. Players like emu87 have used a LOT of gold to skip all of the lower tier and stock tanks, which is why his stats (although excellent) are inflated beyond what should or could be expected from a player without those quantities of gold to spend.
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RainbowDash_GER's Photo RainbowDash_GER 21 Jan 2012

 Kvetoslav, on 21 January 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

This calculator is flawed. Here's a small example using my modified stats:
Player 1:
Average destroyed in the battle: 1.31
Average damage in the battle:  1200
Average spotted in the battle:  0.74
Average defense points in the battle:  1.51
Average captured points in the battle: 1.23
Average tank lvl: 7
Efficiency rating: 1331.24

Player 2:
Average destroyed in the battle: 1.31
Average damage in the battle:  550
Average spotted in the battle:  0.74
Average defense points in the battle:  1.51
Average captured points in the battle: 1.23
Average tank lvl: 5
Efficiency rating: 1161.5

As you can see, the average damage is close to the amount of HP of medium tanks, even higher than that in the second case, but Player 2's efficiency rating is 169.74 lower despite having better damage dealt / own HP ratio. This calculator favors high tier heavy tanks, TD's and arty. The second problem is that it doesn't take win ratio into account.
Because winratio doesn't mean anything.
Also I think it's okay because low tier vehicles usually get more points when capturing/defending/spotting, because that's much easier there. You should get ~ the same efficiency rating.

=> tested it with 2 spotted enemies per battle and 1 point captured and you get 1379 efficiency rating. You just gotta adjust your playstyle to the tank you play and the system works again.
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E57's Photo E57 21 Jan 2012

 RainbowDash_GER, on 21 January 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

Because winratio doesn't mean anything.
Also I think it's okay because low tier vehicles usually get more points when capturing/defending/spotting, because that's much easier there. You should get ~ the same efficiency rating.


Um...bullshit. Higher tier vehicles have a far greater viewrange, and are often fast enough to get around the map to get capture and defence points. This scale is massively weighted in favour of top-tier mediums.
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 Afghane, on 21 January 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

IMHO the ONLY true statistic on a tank that really shows how good you are is Damage per Battle. And followed by Exp per Battle.

That doesn't work either, scouts and mediums jobs is not to dish out large amounts of damage and my T95 (while it can dish out a fair amount) has the primary roll of being shot at to take the heat of other tanks. There are plenty of tanks that dont have high damage per battle stats even when well played.
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