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vacazauru #21 Posted 24 January 2012 - 10:58 PM

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that video card is not so brilliant , i would say go for some nvidia , i personally love the MSI  made ones  i would suggest smth like : http://www.komplett....YZ/default.aspx , you can workaround , smth close to that with some custom cooling ,  and for some speed get a SSD like 32-64 GB for the operating system and maybe for a game that u play often , and ofc so you get into that price range with the SSD if you aren't a space maniac  get something lower than 1.5TB HDD  ,

this is my suggestion i hope i helped you in some way :)

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View Postladd, on 24 January 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

yea looks good, would it be expensive for the shipping to Ireland ?
Searching the best place to buy it, is something you can do on your own  :P
But no, shipping is usually cheap, if you buy it from one place its very likely shipping free.

View PostPadyEos, on 24 January 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

And yours is better with a 520W PUS and no HDD? Not to mention the software he gets with it. If he's not computer literate it's a good deal to have a complete package to start with. I think you forget the bad old days when you didn't know anything about computers either...
The comment about the PSU is the worst thing I have heard today. I hate people who think they need 600W PSU´s while most rigs will never use more than 500 even overclocked.
The HDD wasnt included because prices right now are really unstable...

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View Postvacazauru, on 24 January 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

that video card is not so brilliant , i would say go for some nvidia , i personally love the MSI  made ones  i would suggest smth like : http://www.komplett....YZ/default.aspx , you can workaround , smth close to that with some custom cooling ,  and for some speed get a SSD like 32-64 GB for the operating system and maybe for a game that u play often , and ofc so you get into that price range with the SSD if you aren't a space maniac  get something lower than 1.5TB HDD  ,

this is my suggestion i hope i helped you in some way :)
cheers, its also irish :Smile_honoring::Smile_honoring:

ladd #24 Posted 24 January 2012 - 11:03 PM

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what do ye think of this one?
for 689 euro
Specifications
Product Description Acer Aspire M3970
Model Midi Tower
Processor Intel Core i7 2600 - 3.4GHz
Number of Cores 4
Chipset Intel H67
Memory (expandable up to) 6 GB DDR3 (16GB)
Storage (HDD) 1TB SATA 5400 rpm
Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6450
Optical Drive Dual Layer DVD±ReWriter
Power Supply 300W
Card Reader Yes
Network Gigabit Ethernet
Colour Black
Video Card Connections HDMI, DVI, VGA
Rear Connections 2x PS / 2, 8x USB 2.0
Front Connections 2x USB 2.0
Dimensions (WxDxH) 18 x 38x 40 cm
Weight
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Additional Software Office 2010 Starter
Accessories Includes Keyboard and Mouse

chipps101 #25 Posted 24 January 2012 - 11:03 PM

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personally if gaming is your main intention then i would be looking for at least a nvidia gtx 560 or ati 6850 if you want it to last a while.

the 6670 is a lower mid range graphics card and depending on the resolution you will be playing at will struggle at even medium settings in games like BF3.

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Going purely on specs and as a gaming rig...

Intel® Core™ i5-2320 Processor - pretty good, sure it's no Intel® Core™ i7-2600K but then it doesn't cost as much. As far as gaming is concerned the i5-2320 is a respectable processor. It's solidly mid-range http://ark.intel.com...-Cache-3_00-GHz)

1GB AMD Radeon HD 6670 is a cheap graphics card (as in it retails for less that GBP £100). It's not bad, but don't expect to get full settings out of it. The nVidia GTX 560ti (not the 448 model!!!) strikes a better balance at well under GBP £200 retail. It will give much better perfomance. eg. http://www.ebuyer.co...i-dcii-2di-1gd5

6GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - is adequate for gaming. Very few games use more than about 4GB anyway. Getting more memory will depend on the motherboard. If you need it, which for now you probably won't. When you do, try http://www.crucial.com/uk/

1500GB2 SATA hard drive (7200RPM) - without knowing the manufacturer, I'd say this is ok. It would be preferable to have a small Solid State Drive (SSD) of 64gb, 128gb or 256gb to run Windows and have this large drive used for storage. Again try http://www.crucial.com/uk/ for SSD unless the maker of your machine can offer the SSD as an upgrade.

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View Postladd, on 24 January 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

what do ye think of this one?
for 689 euro
Specifications
Product Description Acer Aspire M3970
Model Midi Tower
Processor Intel Core i7 2600 - 3.4GHz
Number of Cores 4
Chipset Intel H67
Memory (expandable up to) 6 GB DDR3 (16GB)
Storage (HDD) 1TB SATA 5400 rpm
Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6450
Optical Drive Dual Layer DVD±ReWriter
Power Supply 300W
Card Reader Yes
Network Gigabit Ethernet
Colour Black
Video Card Connections HDMI, DVI, VGA
Rear Connections 2x PS / 2, 8x USB 2.0
Front Connections 2x USB 2.0
Dimensions (WxDxH) 18 x 38x 40 cm
Weight
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Additional Software Office 2010 Starter
Accessories Includes Keyboard and Mouse

That one is even worse than the first one, it cant be called a gamer rig anymore.
Also the overall parts dont match up at all, no name PSU tops it all.

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Get this...

YW

ladd #29 Posted 24 January 2012 - 11:09 PM

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View PostT0MMYTANK, on 24 January 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Get this...

YW
cheers dude , what do the rest of ye think is that a good price for that pc?

HendrikZ #30 Posted 24 January 2012 - 11:15 PM

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View Postladd, on 24 January 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

cheers dude , what do the rest of ye think is that a good price for that pc?
I wouldnt buy used Hardware because of warranty issues. If something goes wrong your fucked...

chipps101 #31 Posted 24 January 2012 - 11:15 PM

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http://www.overclock...id=2040&subcat=

something like this would be ideal for you, if you pick the 1gb ati 6850 gfx upgrade and windows 7 home premium for the OS it comes in at £600 without shipping (not sure how much the shipping to Ireland would be)

any of the sandybridge cpu's are great for gaming so even the dual core I3 2100 will be fast enough for a good few years.

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Again I think you guys are over thinking it too much. He doesn't know much about computers and he wants a solid and affordable almost out of the box gaming rig. + software he gets, it's a decent deal. And if you think the 1GB AMD Radeon HD 6670 is not good enough for gaming I must say again the man wants to run game at a good level without having to bother with all the crap about performance we know. Even my 5 years old PC with a Gainward FX9800GT 1GB can run Battlefield 3 at medium-high without problems. You have to balance out the hassle he's prepared to go through with the price and the performance. All in all the first rig is solid and will provide gaming at high quality for 2-3 years and medium-high for the next 3-4.

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View PostPadyEos, on 24 January 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Again I think you guys are over thinking it too much. He doesn't know much about computers and he wants a solid and affordable almost out of the box gaming rig. + software he gets, it's a decent deal. And if you think the 1GB AMD Radeon HD 6670 is not good enough for gaming I must say again the man wants to run game at a good level without having to bother with all the crap about performance we know. Even my 5 years old PC with a Gainward FX9800GT 1GB can run Battlefield 3 at medium-high without problems. You have to balance out the hassle he's prepared to go through with the price and the performance. All in all the first rig is solid.
You dont understant whats the problem, its heavily overpriced and putting your parts together at home is like playing lego... you cant do it wrong because they simply only fit in the right places.

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View PostPadyEos, on 24 January 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Again I think you guys are over thinking it too much. He doesn't know much about computers and he wants a solid and affordable almost out of the box gaming rig. + software he gets, it's a decent deal. And if you think the 1GB AMD Radeon HD 6670 is not good enough for gaming I must say again the man wants to run game at a good level without having to bother with all the crap about performance we know. Even my 5 years old PC with a Gainward FX9800GT 1GB can run Battlefield 3 at medium-high without problems. You have to balance out the hassle he's prepared to go through with the price and the performance. All in all the first rig is solid and will provide gaming at high quality for 2-3 years and medium-high for the next 3-4.

it's funny you mention your 5 year old 9800 gt as that is pretty much in the same performance bracket as the hd 6670.

and the pc i linked to is a fully built pc assembled by one of the UK's top online pc component retailers.

one thing we really need from the OP is to know how big his monitor is and what resolution he will be playing at ?

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View PostHendrikZ, on 24 January 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

You dont understant whats the problem, its heavily overpriced and putting your parts together at home is like playing lego... you cant do it wrong because they simply only fit in the right places.

Look as I said not everyone has the know how. It might be because I'm still young and remember 10 years ago I had no clue about computes. Maybe you forgot. But please don't convince the guy to start building his own pc unless he knows what he's doing. You're probably 500 miles away from him and unless he has a friend that knows some basic stuff and is willing to help please don't send him down that road. If he has no idea at all about computers it will not look like lego to him, it will be more like the Saturn 5 rocket. The system I a good already built and ready to start gaming system that will provide good results over the next 2-3 years and satisfactory results in the years after that.

View Postchipps101, on 24 January 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

it's funny you mention your 5 year old 9800 gt as that is pretty much in the same performance bracket as the hd 6670.

and the pc i linked to is a fully built pc assembled by one of the UK's top online pc component retailers.

one thing we really need from the OP is to know how big his monitor is and what resolution he will be playing at ?


Sorry man but dual cores, 4GB RAM and 500GB HDD's just don't cut it anymore these days.

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would this be top of the range?
1000 euro asus computer
Specifications
Product Description Asus CG8350-NLRE09
Model Midi tower
Processor Second generation Intel Core i7 2600 - 3.4GHz
Chipset Intel H67
Memory 12GB DDR3
Storage (SSD) 64GB
Storage (HDD) 2TB 7200rpm
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX550 - 1GB DDR5
Optical Drive Dual Layer DVD±ReWriter
Card Reader 16-in-1 Card Reader
Network Gigabit Ethernet LAN, WiFi b/g/n
Accessories Includes Keyboard and Mouse
Colour Black
Rear Connections 2 x USB3.0, 4 x USB2.0, 3 x Jack-plug, VGA, HDMI, DVI, 1 x PS/2
Front Connections 4 x USB2.0, 2 x Jack-plug
Dimensions (WxDxH) 206 x 460 x 530 mm
Weight 13kg
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Power supply 500 Watt

also is a Irish company so p&p will be cheap enough

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View PostPadyEos, on 24 January 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

Look as I said not everyone has the know how. It might be because I'm still young and remember 10 years ago I had no clue about computes. Maybe you forgot. But please don't convince the guy to start building his own pc unless he knows what he's doing. You're probably 500 miles away from him and unless he has a friend that knows some basic stuff and is willing to help please don't send him down that road. If he has no idea at all about computer it will not look like lego to him, it will be more like the Saturn 5 rocket. The system I a good already built and ready to start gaming system that will provide good results over the next 2-3 years and satisfactory results in the years after that.
No premade system posted here was worth buying yet...

I really recommend to ladd that he takes his questions to an Irish board where they can really help you alot better than anyone here can. Even with shipping options.
There should be some Irish hardware forum out there, these things exist in every language.

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View PostHendrikZ, on 24 January 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

No premade system posted here was worth buying yet...

I really recommend to ladd that he takes his questions to an Irish board where they can really help you alot better than anyone here can. Even with shipping options.
There should be some Irish hardware forum out there, these things exist in every language.

im a noob when it comes to looking for stuff

ladd #39 Posted 24 January 2012 - 11:37 PM

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this one works out at 850

asus aswell

pecifications
Product Description Asus CM6650-NLRE10
Model Type Midi Tower
Processor 2nd generation Intel Core i7 2600 - 3.4GHz
RAM 8GB DDR3 RAM
Storage 2TB 7200rpm
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT530 - 2GB
Optical Storage Dual Layer DVD±ReWriter
Card Reader 16-in-1 Card Reader
Network Gigabit Ethernet LAN, WiFi b / g / n
Accessories Includes Keyboard and Mouse
Colour Black
Rear Connections 2 x USB3.0, 4 x USB2.0, 2 x Jack-plug, VGA, HDMI, DVI, 1 x PS/2
Front Connections 4 x USB2.0, 2 x Jack-plug
Power supply 300 Watt
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Dimensions (WxDxH) 17.3cm x 42cm x 41cm

*also does bigger graphics card meen its better eg 2gb compared to 1 gb?

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View PostPadyEos, on 24 January 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:


Sorry man but dual cores, 4GB RAM and 500GB HDD's just don't cut it anymore these days.

i can assure you a sandybridge core I3 is more than enough for any current game and will be for a while, the I3 2100 is faster than my Q9550 in most games and for a purely gaming rig 500gb is enough storage. i would myself go for 8gb of ram but 4gb is still enough for gaming at this time.




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