Sturmtiger... wont work?
crnivuk
07 Mar 2012
Ascender, on 03 March 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:
WG will probably find some ridiculous reason to put a 240mm gun on it or whatever was originally planned for the SturmTiger to tone it down, rather than the historical 380mm. Which was as much a gun as it was a rocket launcher...
And indeed it's an SPG not a TD wrong section.
And indeed it's an SPG not a TD wrong section.
However if used correctly or if the situation was in the favour of the Sturmtiger it was pretty effective. Particularly on the morale of the enemy. Like the situation of a Sturmtiger which managed to destroy a whole pulk of Shermans with a single shell. There was a Sturmtiger in the ardenes which used a Coalmine as cover to reload. It was not possible to destroy it and it caused much damage to the allies.
But all in all the Sturmtiger was rather a very interesting curiosity then a really usefull vehicle.
Argonaut1
15 Mar 2012
The Rocket Launcher of Sturmtiger needed 30 Minutes to Reload I hope it can make only one shot per game radius 100 Metres over 5000 Damage LOOOOLLLL xD
Dreachon
16 Mar 2012
Aqarius, on 04 March 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:
True, but I'm not the one yelling "Propaganda" just because I hear something I don't like.
If you will: here, A hit on the frontal armour of a Ferdinand by a 152mmAP@1200m. My point is you're not going to get hit by a 152mm shell and keep going, but in the game, you do. Considering the liberty taken with other calibers, the sturmtiger rounds won't necessarily one-shot a Maus, even though they should.
If you will: here, A hit on the frontal armour of a Ferdinand by a 152mmAP@1200m. My point is you're not going to get hit by a 152mm shell and keep going, but in the game, you do. Considering the liberty taken with other calibers, the sturmtiger rounds won't necessarily one-shot a Maus, even though they should.
That plate proves nothing, they even removed the extra 100mm bolted armour of the ferdinand front, you also seem to lack an understanding as to what it takes to move almost 16 tonnes of metal, that is the weigh of the Tiger II turret.
As for your third point again your wrong I have a nice picture of a ferdinand that took a direct hit from a 152mm shell at the front of the fighting compartment and the only thing it did was making a little dent on the point of impact, the crew is standing in front of their vehicle as it's sitting on a flatcar.
GehakteMolen
16 Mar 2012
Dreachon, on 16 March 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:
That plate proves nothing, they even removed the extra 100mm bolted armour of the ferdinand front, you also seem to lack an understanding as to what it takes to move almost 16 tonnes of metal, that is the weigh of the Tiger II.
As for your third point again your wrong I have a nice picture of a ferdinand that took a direct hit from a 152mm shell at the front of the fighting compartment and the only thing it did was making a little dent on the point of impact, the crew is standing in front of their vehicle as it's sitting on a flatcar.
As for your third point again your wrong I have a nice picture of a ferdinand that took a direct hit from a 152mm shell at the front of the fighting compartment and the only thing it did was making a little dent on the point of impact, the crew is standing in front of their vehicle as it's sitting on a flatcar.
200mm of steel ftw
however a Sturmtiger shoots 380mm shells, that equal to ww2 bombs, and while a bomb falls, these 380mm things crash into the tank with 900km/h, and if 380 kg of steel hits ``something`` with 900km/h, that ``something`` is broke, no matter what it is, if an modern abrams (or leo2 or T90 or whatever) gets hit @ its turret by 1 of these, the sheer kinetic force would just rip off the turret, and if it hits the side, the entire side would ``explode``, a tank is built for point shaped shells, not for surviving a bunker buster, these shells dont penetrated armor, they just crush the armor, and after that some 150kg of HE will make sure that tank is toast, these 380mm things pack more punch then some modern 150mm piece of shit, these 380mm things are huge....
Dreachon
16 Mar 2012
Well the gun is almost a battleship calibre weapon, the shell carries 127kg of HE compared to the 28kg of HE that the 152mm ML20 get's, that makes for one big difference.
Esourze
16 Mar 2012
The thing is if you shot in a area were 5 - 6 tanks a hiding you would proably kill all if not damage all heavily. accuracy will be something like 2,0 i think ^^
Dreachon
16 Mar 2012
Esourze, on 16 March 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:
The thing is if you shot in a area were 5 - 6 tanks a hiding you would proably kill all if not damage all heavily. accuracy will be something like 2,0 i think ^^
With the blastradius of this weapon you don't really need to hit them just land close enough, the Sturmtiger will be perfect when your with teammembers that know how to get the enemy to group togetehr as then it will do a lot of damage to them.
Shoeshine
16 Mar 2012
as a premium TD it would be the ultimate Trollcannon
camo net & 100% camo skill...find the nearest bushes and wait
Maus comes along doing its mausy thing....wump..twirlly whistle...KABOOM...................maus player sits in confused & shocked state..........he commences rage book in the chat box
ST player giggles counts the silver he just made with 1 shot and moves to another bush
http://forum.worldof..._teethhappy.gif
camo net & 100% camo skill...find the nearest bushes and wait
Maus comes along doing its mausy thing....wump..twirlly whistle...KABOOM...................maus player sits in confused & shocked state..........he commences rage book in the chat box
ST player giggles counts the silver he just made with 1 shot and moves to another bush
http://forum.worldof..._teethhappy.gif
steview162
16 Mar 2012
You can just imagine after a few games, everyone will know how long it takes to reload. So there will be a mad dash to get
GOOD cover before the first shell comes in.
Sturmtiger, ALARM.
Das Boot
Just in case an emplyee reads this - no 380mm, no buy.
GOOD cover before the first shell comes in.
Sturmtiger, ALARM.
Das Boot
Just in case an emplyee reads this - no 380mm, no buy.
ViktorKitov
16 Mar 2012
Dreachon, on 16 March 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:
That plate proves nothing, they even removed the extra 100mm bolted armour of the ferdinand front, you also seem to lack an understanding as to what it takes to move almost 16 tonnes of metal, that is the weigh of the Tiger II.
As for your third point again your wrong I have a nice picture of a ferdinand that took a direct hit from a 152mm shell at the front of the fighting compartment and the only thing it did was making a little dent on the point of impact, the crew is standing in front of their vehicle as it's sitting on a flatcar.
As for your third point again your wrong I have a nice picture of a ferdinand that took a direct hit from a 152mm shell at the front of the fighting compartment and the only thing it did was making a little dent on the point of impact, the crew is standing in front of their vehicle as it's sitting on a flatcar.
When did they make a sporty version of the KT at just 16 tonnes?

Maybe...
Aqarius
17 Mar 2012
^
Also:
Is this where I say "propaganda"?
Also:
Dreachon, on 16 March 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:
I have a nice picture of a ferdinand that took a direct hit from a 152mm shell at the front of the fighting compartment and the only thing it did was making a little dent on the point of impact, the crew is standing in front of their vehicle as it's sitting on a flatcar.
Dreachon
17 Mar 2012
W0Z
18 Mar 2012
Higher arc means you can shoot over stuff and the shell will be landing on the targets top (weaker)armour so theres more chance of a penatrating hit even with HE.
crnivuk
19 Mar 2012
steview162, on 16 March 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:
Sturmtiger, ALARM.
Das Boot
Just in case an emplyee reads this - no 380mm, no buy.
Roebuck34
19 Mar 2012
why do people say it will have an 30 or more min reload time.
well i guees they meant irl but that was when they loaded the ammo in to the tank and when they loaded the shells into the "gun" it dident take that long time IF i REMEBER right.
im also quite tired.
/ a little rant time of roebuck 34
and its quite redicolus loading times in the game allready ive been in hetzer t-34-85 and sherman when you will load it dosent take more then maybe 2 seconds but thats with shells that dosent wight as much as the sturmtiger bada BOOM gun shells does.
even so in the marder 2 its super easy to load you can do it 5 seconds relaxed and talking now think in the battle people are trying to kill you how fast will you load now. /my little rant is now over thank you who read it if any one did read it
and sorry for my bad english dotation etc etc
well i guees they meant irl but that was when they loaded the ammo in to the tank and when they loaded the shells into the "gun" it dident take that long time IF i REMEBER right.
im also quite tired.
/ a little rant time of roebuck 34
and its quite redicolus loading times in the game allready ive been in hetzer t-34-85 and sherman when you will load it dosent take more then maybe 2 seconds but thats with shells that dosent wight as much as the sturmtiger bada BOOM gun shells does.
even so in the marder 2 its super easy to load you can do it 5 seconds relaxed and talking now think in the battle people are trying to kill you how fast will you load now. /my little rant is now over thank you who read it if any one did read it
and sorry for my bad english dotation etc etc
Dreachon
19 Mar 2012
crnivuk, on 19 March 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:
funny that you say this since if I remember correctly that 380mm rocket/mortar weapon was actually meant to fight submarines or something like that. But since it never was used they decided to squeze it in a tank.
Not exactly but this seems a common mistake, the weapon was not intended for taking out enemy submarines but actually to allow a submarine to attack targets inland.
CoyDK
19 Mar 2012
Fonsyfun, on 03 March 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:
Ive heard that the Sturmtiger will be in the game (premium arty), and from what Ive red from wiki, it will have a 380mm gun
But, the biggest gun I'm avare of in the game now is the 240 mm Howitzer M1, and the 240 mm Howitzer M1 39,8% is only 39,8 of the size of the 380m gun. The 240 mm Howitzer M1 has currently with HE 2250 damage, so in theory the 380mm gun would have a HE-damage of 5653
That would, if it hits, oneshot tier 9 tanks. So my calcuations are probably wrong and WG won't make it that powerful, but in theory it would be, right?
sorry for my english
Edit: And if a moderator pass by, please move this to the SPG part of the forum
But, the biggest gun I'm avare of in the game now is the 240 mm Howitzer M1, and the 240 mm Howitzer M1 39,8% is only 39,8 of the size of the 380m gun. The 240 mm Howitzer M1 has currently with HE 2250 damage, so in theory the 380mm gun would have a HE-damage of 5653
Edit: And if a moderator pass by, please move this to the SPG part of the forum
The Sturmtiger is a Siege tank, just like the T95. It have a "rocket/mortar" gun not a normal "gun" as we know from wot td's fx. Its a combination of a arty gun in a TD shell. Its armor keeps it safe until it gets close enough to deliver its massive shell to level a building with anything/one inside. It was deployed on the Easten Front agenst the russen' but it never saw mass production.
crnivuk
19 Mar 2012
Dreachon, on 19 March 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:
Not exactly but this seems a common mistake, the weapon was not intended for taking out enemy submarines but actually to allow a submarine to attack targets inland.
llSeppll
21 Mar 2012
mr3awsome, on 05 March 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:
not all assult guns are TDs
eg. KV-2 is heavy tank
Bison isn't TD it's spg
etc, etc
eg. KV-2 is heavy tank
Bison isn't TD it's spg
etc, etc
You cant POSSIBLY tell me that 150 mm armour at 47 degree is meant to be an SPG??
Sure classing it as TD would be awkard, but still the best solution. Ffs, the classification light would be suited as much as the classification SPG...


