I dont know what did developers do but you guys ruined gameplay with type since recently type is damn slow going up to hill 8-9 kmh realy slow acceleration he get penetrated by every tank my personal opinion developers wanted to help non type players and lower every aspect of that Vehicle i think i payd that tank with my money and i want the tank for which i payd i dont care if some non type players say he is OP not my concern first you guys cut his Credit income ok np you say that you didnt do that i notice that it´s down now you cut his speed when i drive it it´s like i drive Löwe
Sou please fix back whatever you guys did ...
Sry for my English not my native Language ....
What happend with type 59
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#-19 Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:22 PM
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#-18 Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:30 PM
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Ok, I repeat this every time, but meh...
1. You bought a license to use the tank... not the tank... and since it is still their tank, they can do whatever they want with it.
2. So obviously either your tank is bugged or mine, because I have problems to penetrate Type-59s from the front with anything save my T28 with 120mm gun...
3. Type-59 is well known to be fast, but not so agile and fast accellerating... and you don't tell what hill you went up... there are some steep hills which even break T-50-2 down to slomo...
1. You bought a license to use the tank... not the tank... and since it is still their tank, they can do whatever they want with it.
2. So obviously either your tank is bugged or mine, because I have problems to penetrate Type-59s from the front with anything save my T28 with 120mm gun...
3. Type-59 is well known to be fast, but not so agile and fast accellerating... and you don't tell what hill you went up... there are some steep hills which even break T-50-2 down to slomo...
#-17 Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:34 PM
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???
Why doing a thread with "Wtf .."?
Not beautiful, and to be honest, I think I grow very tired of this language with f words...
English is not my language either, and I am sure it is better avoiding some americanism...
Why doing a thread with "Wtf .."?
Not beautiful, and to be honest, I think I grow very tired of this language with f words...
English is not my language either, and I am sure it is better avoiding some americanism...
#-16 Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:45 PM
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What can i say just this:
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This tank ( not MM episodes)is balanced normally, you have faced normal players not da Noob Boyz.
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This tank ( not MM episodes)is balanced normally, you have faced normal players not da Noob Boyz.
#-15 Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:49 PM
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Reading such topics make me laugh.
Don't apologize for your English, just spend some time correcting your post, most of forum users ain't native speakers.
I don't know how many negatives I've got for commenting Type59 threads, but I think that's around 30 or more, and I still can't restrain myself on commenting it. Maybe you should THINK when you are playing, maybe this isn't Merkava, Abrams or whatever, and 105mm King Tiger gun can stop Type? Gameplay like: HOOORAY
and braineless driving won't improve your incomes, don't whine about their reduction (I'm afraid it was no such thing at all). This is normal tank, you bought license, and you can use it, not everyone can afford it, you should be happy. Try Panther II or Pershing instead, when you get some flame in Panther because of frontal penetration or your Pershing will be heavily damaged by some V tier tank shot, then you will appreciate your little golden tankie.
Don't apologize for your English, just spend some time correcting your post, most of forum users ain't native speakers.
I don't know how many negatives I've got for commenting Type59 threads, but I think that's around 30 or more, and I still can't restrain myself on commenting it. Maybe you should THINK when you are playing, maybe this isn't Merkava, Abrams or whatever, and 105mm King Tiger gun can stop Type? Gameplay like: HOOORAY
and braineless driving won't improve your incomes, don't whine about their reduction (I'm afraid it was no such thing at all). This is normal tank, you bought license, and you can use it, not everyone can afford it, you should be happy. Try Panther II or Pershing instead, when you get some flame in Panther because of frontal penetration or your Pershing will be heavily damaged by some V tier tank shot, then you will appreciate your little golden tankie.
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first for the first ansver you i bought i licence to use a tank and no i did not bought this lame tractor of an vehicle second T59 when i bought him wos fast wos agile he wos actualy Stock t54 atm donno what t59 is but for sure not that what i bought for my money
Second If developers change on tank someting they shoud inform costumers that they nerfed that vehicle down till barely playable
for the second ansver
If you dont have nothing smart to say about this posts subject dont ba a TROLL if you dont like how my topic wos named dont read it
Sincerly your upset costumer ...
Second If developers change on tank someting they shoud inform costumers that they nerfed that vehicle down till barely playable
for the second ansver
If you dont have nothing smart to say about this posts subject dont ba a TROLL if you dont like how my topic wos named dont read it
Sincerly your upset costumer ...
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szwajg, on 07 March 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:
Reading such topics make me laugh.
Don't apologize for your English, just spend some time correcting your post, most of forum users ain't native speakers.
I don't know how many negatives I've got for commenting Type59 threads, but I think that's around 30 or more, and I still can't restrain myself on commenting it. Maybe you should THINK when you are playing, maybe this isn't Merkava, Abrams or whatever, and 105mm King Tiger gun can stop Type? Gameplay like: HOOORAY and braineless driving won't improve your incomes, don't whine about their reduction (I'm afraid it was no such thing at all). This is normal tank, you bought license, and you can use it, not everyone can afford it, you should be happy. Try Panther II or Pershing instead, when you get some flame in Panther because of frontal penetration or your Pershing will be heavily damaged by some V tier tank shot, then you will appreciate your little golden tankie.
Don't apologize for your English, just spend some time correcting your post, most of forum users ain't native speakers.
I don't know how many negatives I've got for commenting Type59 threads, but I think that's around 30 or more, and I still can't restrain myself on commenting it. Maybe you should THINK when you are playing, maybe this isn't Merkava, Abrams or whatever, and 105mm King Tiger gun can stop Type? Gameplay like: HOOORAY
and braineless driving won't improve your incomes, don't whine about their reduction (I'm afraid it was no such thing at all). This is normal tank, you bought license, and you can use it, not everyone can afford it, you should be happy. Try Panther II or Pershing instead, when you get some flame in Panther because of frontal penetration or your Pershing will be heavily damaged by some V tier tank shot, then you will appreciate your little golden tankie.Umm panter,pershing agan one of thouse nvm as first i dont wanna correct my posts no need for it second i have pershing have panther as mather of fact i have all goldies and regulars spend a loot money.Bought for 2 accounts löwe typs and yes i am paypal noob why couse i can afford it dont care and no i am not a no lifer am maried man and have full time work (for future noobs who try to write no lifer or whateva) second none of my battles wos brainless driving type 59 is tier 8 tank moust of my battles recenly wos against Batchats,E-50,IS7,T30 that means moustly tier 10 battles dont remeber when i got in to battle with another tier 8ts (shortly matchmaker for type59 tier limit wos moved up to tier10) and yes i earn still enough Credits with t59. As for your pershing yes he can be penetrated by lover tier tanks that why you have high damage ...
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szwajg, on 07 March 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:
Reading such topics make me laugh.
Don't apologize for your English, just spend some time correcting your post, most of forum users ain't native speakers.
I don't know how many negatives I've got for commenting Type59 threads, but I think that's around 30 or more, and I still can't restrain myself on commenting it. Maybe you should THINK when you are playing, maybe this isn't Merkava, Abrams or whatever, and 105mm King Tiger gun can stop Type? Gameplay like: HOOORAY and braineless driving won't improve your incomes, don't whine about their reduction (I'm afraid it was no such thing at all). This is normal tank, you bought license, and you can use it, not everyone can afford it, you should be happy. Try Panther II or Pershing instead, when you get some flame in Panther because of frontal penetration or your Pershing will be heavily damaged by some V tier tank shot, then you will appreciate your little golden tankie.
Don't apologize for your English, just spend some time correcting your post, most of forum users ain't native speakers.
I don't know how many negatives I've got for commenting Type59 threads, but I think that's around 30 or more, and I still can't restrain myself on commenting it. Maybe you should THINK when you are playing, maybe this isn't Merkava, Abrams or whatever, and 105mm King Tiger gun can stop Type? Gameplay like: HOOORAY
and braineless driving won't improve your incomes, don't whine about their reduction (I'm afraid it was no such thing at all). This is normal tank, you bought license, and you can use it, not everyone can afford it, you should be happy. Try Panther II or Pershing instead, when you get some flame in Panther because of frontal penetration or your Pershing will be heavily damaged by some V tier tank shot, then you will appreciate your little golden tankie.I got a pershing and an type 59 at the moment the pershing is faster then the type59, which when i got the type that was not the case, plz explain that, but i am sure you will find a explanation how lucky we are to have a type. Not my problem you are not as fortunete, stop complaining about not having one.
#-10 Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:11 PM
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Dude, nothing's wrong with the Type. It's as good as it always has. Problem is, some time has passed since it was introduced. People know how to counter it. Besides, I've been told by a reliable source (should be public knowledge, but I never owned a Type; have driven one on a friend's account, however) that it's MM value has increased. To compensate, it's gain also has increased. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Nothing happened to it. Everyone else just got smarter and started aiming. Sorry your fun has ended, but it had to end sometime. It happened to Lowes and KV-5s just as well. Play against tons of them, and you get used to them. Then they are just another tank.
However Type 59 drivers aren't changing their tactics. Rush rush rush, attack attack attack. We know where you are going, and we're waiting for you. Oh yeah, and we're already aiming for those sweet, sweet ammoracks of yours.
However Type 59 drivers aren't changing their tactics. Rush rush rush, attack attack attack. We know where you are going, and we're waiting for you. Oh yeah, and we're already aiming for those sweet, sweet ammoracks of yours.
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kijevskias, on 07 March 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:
Umm panter,pershing agan one of thouse nvm as first i dont wanna correct my posts no need for it second i have pershing have panther as mather of fact i have all goldies and regulars spend a loot money.Bought for 2 accounts löwe typs and yes i am paypal noob why couse i can afford it dont care and no i am not a no lifer am maried man and have full time work (for future noobs who try to write no lifer or whateva) second none of my battles wos brainless driving type 59 is tier 8 tank moust of my battles recenly wos against Batchats,E-50,IS7,T30 that means moustly tier 10 battles dont remeber when i got in to battle with another tier 8ts (shortly matchmaker for type59 tier limit wos moved up to tier10) and yes i earn still enough Credits with t59. As for your pershing yes he can be penetrated by lover tier tanks that why you have high damage ...
melekico, on 07 March 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:
Not my problem you are not as fortunete, stop complaining about not having one.
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szwajg, on 07 March 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:
No offence, but are you sure you need not correct your posts? I'm not grammar nazi, but sometimes... well.
Maybe I just don't want to spend my money on such thing?
Maybe I just don't want to spend my money on such thing?
Great dude respect you found 8 of them now go and make it your job correct every mistyped word on this forum it seems it´s your destiny ......
#-6 Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:56 PM
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You should check this out:
And more important:
This is common law in online games... so you can be angry about changes because you lose fun, but you cannot complain, that you "lost" money or a value.
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You agree that WN reserves the right to manage, regulate, control, modify and/or eliminate its games and all aspects of including but not limited to, game characters, items, points, and Gold (collectively, "Virtual Goods") therein. All Virtual Goods remain property of WN. You acknowledge that WN may, in its sole discretion, in any general or specific case, modify features, functions or abilities of any element of any of its games or any Virtual Goods (which may, among other things, make the Virtual Goods substantially more valuable, effective or functional, or less valuable, effective or functional, more common or less common, or eliminated entirely). You acknowledge and agree that all Virtual Goods represent a limited license right governed by the terms of this Agreement, and are not redeemable for any sum of money or monetary value from WN at any time.
YOU AGREE, THEREFORE, THAT YOU WILL NEVER ASSERT OR BRING ANY CLAIM OR SUIT AGAINST WN, ITS PARENT COMPANIES, DIVISIONS, SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OR ANY EMPLOYEES OF ANY OF ABOVE, WHICH IS RELATED TO OR BASED ON, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO; (I) A CLAIM THAT YOU "OWN" ANY VIRTUAL GOODS IN ANY GAME, (II) A CLAIM FOR THE "VALUE" OF VIRTUAL GOODS IF WN DELETES THEM (AND/OR TERMINATES YOUR ACCOUNT(S)) WITH A REASONABLE CAUSE AT WN' SOLE DESCRETION, (III) A CLAIM FOR THE "VALUE" OF VIRTUAL GOODS THAT YOU MAY LOSE IF WN DOES ANYTHING THAT IT IS ENTITLED TO DO PURSUANT TO ANY PROVISION OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE APPLICABLE GAME'S USER AGREEMENT AND SOFTWARE LICENSE, PROHIBITED USE, TERMS OF SERVICE AND/OR WN' PRIVACY POLICY, OR FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS AND/OR "BUGS" IN WN GAMES, (IV) A CLAIM THAT THE "VALUE" OF ANY VIRTUAL GOODS HAS INCREASED OR DECREASED BY VIRTUE OF ANY GAME MODIFICATION THAT WN HAS MADE OR WILL MAKE.
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YOU AGREE, THEREFORE, THAT YOU WILL NEVER ASSERT OR BRING ANY CLAIM OR SUIT AGAINST WN, ITS PARENT COMPANIES, DIVISIONS, SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OR ANY EMPLOYEES OF ANY OF ABOVE, WHICH IS RELATED TO OR BASED ON, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO; (I) A CLAIM THAT YOU "OWN" ANY VIRTUAL GOODS IN ANY GAME, (II) A CLAIM FOR THE "VALUE" OF VIRTUAL GOODS IF WN DELETES THEM (AND/OR TERMINATES YOUR ACCOUNT(S)) WITH A REASONABLE CAUSE AT WN' SOLE DESCRETION, (III) A CLAIM FOR THE "VALUE" OF VIRTUAL GOODS THAT YOU MAY LOSE IF WN DOES ANYTHING THAT IT IS ENTITLED TO DO PURSUANT TO ANY PROVISION OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE APPLICABLE GAME'S USER AGREEMENT AND SOFTWARE LICENSE, PROHIBITED USE, TERMS OF SERVICE AND/OR WN' PRIVACY POLICY, OR FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS AND/OR "BUGS" IN WN GAMES, (IV) A CLAIM THAT THE "VALUE" OF ANY VIRTUAL GOODS HAS INCREASED OR DECREASED BY VIRTUE OF ANY GAME MODIFICATION THAT WN HAS MADE OR WILL MAKE.
This is common law in online games... so you can be angry about changes because you lose fun, but you cannot complain, that you "lost" money or a value.
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typhaon, on 07 March 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:
You should check this out:
And more important:
This is common law in online games... so you can be angry about changes because you lose fun, but you cannot complain, that you "lost" money or a value.
And more important:
This is common law in online games... so you can be angry about changes because you lose fun, but you cannot complain, that you "lost" money or a value.
as i have seen on another post
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kijevskias, on 07 March 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:
as i have seen on another post wg will just make that no one buys tanks they will be nerfed sooner or later..
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Photeus, on 07 March 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:
Nothing happened to it. Everyone else just got smarter and started aiming. Sorry your fun has ended, but it had to end sometime. It happened to Lowes and KV-5s just as well. Play against tons of them, and you get used to them. Then they are just another tank.
However Type 59 drivers aren't changing their tactics. Rush rush rush, attack attack attack. We know where you are going, and we're waiting for you. Oh yeah, and we're already aiming for those sweet, sweet ammoracks of yours.
However Type 59 drivers aren't changing their tactics. Rush rush rush, attack attack attack. We know where you are going, and we're waiting for you. Oh yeah, and we're already aiming for those sweet, sweet ammoracks of yours.
#-2 Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:48 AM
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I have the type 59, I have noticed that the vehicle may of been secretly nerfed to keep the crowd happy however i shall also voice my concerns like others.
When i first got my type 59 it seems to be really awesome it got very nice match making and made a ton of profits
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I must also voice that the tank was very fun it was a pleasure to drive and feel like the top dog for once, Tier 10 games where very boring when i did get them and i made little to no profit compared to lower tier games.
However recently the tank is boring i play it less and less every week and i am looking for a replacement supposedly the IS6 which is coming soon, The tank feels somewhat sluggish, The frontal plating seems to be much weaker at least from a few screens i have anyway showing all of the front being hit.
What else can i say, Probably not much but i wanted to voice my concerns anyway.
Ah yes i forgot to mention some things.
Ammo rack.
Recently i have been getting racked more often also, A few games back today i got racked by a tier 6 when i fist started the game annoying as **** never happened before.
Anyway over the period of having this tank it seems like the ammo rack is more prone to exploding from such tiny little things.
I have 1600 Games with the Type 59, As of recently its gone from being the best tank to the worst tank over the last few weeks at least.
I say wait for the IS6, supposedly its Russian and its going to be a good tank.
When i first got my type 59 it seems to be really awesome it got very nice match making and made a ton of profits
.I must also voice that the tank was very fun it was a pleasure to drive and feel like the top dog for once, Tier 10 games where very boring when i did get them and i made little to no profit compared to lower tier games.
However recently the tank is boring i play it less and less every week and i am looking for a replacement supposedly the IS6 which is coming soon, The tank feels somewhat sluggish, The frontal plating seems to be much weaker at least from a few screens i have anyway showing all of the front being hit.
What else can i say, Probably not much but i wanted to voice my concerns anyway.
Ah yes i forgot to mention some things.
Ammo rack.
Recently i have been getting racked more often also, A few games back today i got racked by a tier 6 when i fist started the game annoying as **** never happened before.
Anyway over the period of having this tank it seems like the ammo rack is more prone to exploding from such tiny little things.
I have 1600 Games with the Type 59, As of recently its gone from being the best tank to the worst tank over the last few weeks at least.
I say wait for the IS6, supposedly its Russian and its going to be a good tank.
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An again, some real proofs? or we have to belive anything you say...
All have been said in the other topic, but instead of wasting a few minutes reading in, we created another useless Ninja Nerf fan club topic.
Yes, WG paid me, of course. Just because we could explain the changes without claiming ninja nerfs means that we are the enemy, we are at WG orders....
And even videos of T59 rolling into battles are not a proof of nerf, in act is a proof on how MM was wrong and now is right.
Let's go folks! now we are going to explain how the game works, and how the REAL changes affect the type (and so many tanks!). I'm going to do it as polite as I could at this moment. =)
Before you dont see a T10 apart from clanwars or absolute companies, and...well, you still can damage a T10, but not from 500m and not aiming blind. But is not a nerf, is called SPACED ARMOR, and works that way with crappy gun like T59 have, ROF is not a good thing if you dont aim really well and assault at close combat, but the true is that a Tier 8 MED shouldn't go on a heavy T10 alone, nor T9, and is still easy to kill a T8 heavy. Again, where is the nerf? the spaced armor or the need to aim yo certain tanks? is always been that way with the crappy 100mm gun.
What Tier 4 dings you??? how? please, show me a video of T4 dings! I could claim I ding loltractor, but words means nothing, and I'm sure it could happen, but as many times to be a problem? again spaced armor change means sometimes we have those amazing moments. NERF? no, spaced armor AGAIN.
When faced to better guns (T10-T9 that before the new MM we not face), the usual thing is that you need to cover all the tank, and dont be so confy with the turret dings. But when faced to the same MM as before (T8 and below) Turret is invulnerable as it was, again, show me proof of S70 dinging consistently before (S70 is in IS4 and we could face it before), or show me a continuous pen with a Heavy T8 or Med T8, or below as you claim. Nerf? no, new MM and need to adapt soon to the new big enemies.
All tanks have their ammoracks HP reduced, is not only a type thing, is a general change that was in notes and you can see all tanks blowed up more easily. The real pain is, like I write just a few post before, russian and type have their ammo racks weak point so exposed, (like germans have their motors, and USA have the modules) we had to be cautious before, and even more now. Nerf? no, is a general change, HP ammorack reduced in all tanks, of course, type included.
Again the same, and I add, WAR doesn't make you invulnerable, just make you less vulnerable, is not the same. And please, I want to see a Ammo explosion faced to the enemy, because front faced is the only side you havent got ammo weak point. Nerf? no, general change as the point before.
I haven't noticed that our crappy acceleration is now crappier than before, VK 4502A is a FAST tank, in fact is the fastest before IS3, and the KT thing is just exagerated...probably because of the whole new MM and the impresion you now have a worse thing than in the past, but is just in your mind, our acc always have been crappy, nerfing more should be imposible. Nerf? I havent noticed it was worse now, and I play the type every day. I go with the overall impresion you have a worse tank now, so acc and all seems way worse.
We never, and I repeat...NEVER!! have the T44 acc, by far, T44 elited is been always way better that the type in acc, and now is a way better with the new gun. But again, new MM makes types from bully to bullied, and the overall impresions is that they get nerfed, when the real thing is that they face big guys now.
Continue play the type and learn to face those big T10 and T9, and you will improve your gains more than it was before, first battles in those T10-T9 rounds get me crazy, as I cant deal dmg as I could in T8 battles, but once you adapt (and type drivers need to do it faster) the credit income start to flow again with no problems.
It bother when all the nerf claim have it's roots in the new MM and how we feel we are not the alpha dog in the battles, we could be now in the bottom side, and been in the bottom means harder games and a need to start learning how to play. You dont bother to be there, maybe true, but you claim you can dmg them from sides, than you get pen easily in the turret, and mostly all your "nerfs" in the post; so I think it bother you more that you really think, you have the worst tank in those battles, or close to the worst, but before you were the best or close to the top tank in the randoms...is a totally different way to play, and when a driver struggles to succed, then most of them thinks in the Ninja Nerf, when in fact is a Fail to adapt.
Is not a paranoia, is just that they are in a diff MM, and is a big step up. I hope someone links 2 similar battles (at top tier with type) where you could see a difference.
So, the NERF is the result of:
-Spaced Armor and the new dinamic in ballistic.
-MM in tier 10 like any other T8 Med
-Reduced HP for modules in all tanks.
None of them are Ninja Nerf, they are in notes, and they affect all the tanks.
I hope this time I was polite enough to all the drivers, those that claim the NN exist and those how claims is tha lack of adaptation to MM and other general changes.
Start using your brain as soon as posible please, is not such a big effort and Type drivers that make a fast adaptation to the MM and he HP reduced in mods (and that's not ninja, it have been said dozens of times...) will stop been rude. Is embarrasing to read so many people complaining about the "new" type, when is the same type.
So.....any other Ninja Nerf you want to be "disclosed" with a clear explanation?
All have been said in the other topic, but instead of wasting a few minutes reading in, we created another useless Ninja Nerf fan club topic.
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Hmm...
It really seems that you guys are from the wargaming team or hired by them or something just to denny the truth and convince us that the ninja nerfing doesn't exist in this game,tho the majority of us know better.
It really seems that you guys are from the wargaming team or hired by them or something just to denny the truth and convince us that the ninja nerfing doesn't exist in this game,tho the majority of us know better.
Yes, WG paid me, of course. Just because we could explain the changes without claiming ninja nerfs means that we are the enemy, we are at WG orders....
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Proof that T59 was nerfed,we don't have of course,only if someone maybe made some videos on how it was 2-3 months ago and how is it now...
And even videos of T59 rolling into battles are not a proof of nerf, in act is a proof on how MM was wrong and now is right.
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Facts before and after the T59 beeing ninja nerfed:
Let's go folks! now we are going to explain how the game works, and how the REAL changes affect the type (and so many tanks!). I'm going to do it as polite as I could at this moment. =)
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-before we could penetrate and make damage to a T10 from sides and back/now we barely penetrate a T9 sometimes even T8 from sides and back
Before you dont see a T10 apart from clanwars or absolute companies, and...well, you still can damage a T10, but not from 500m and not aiming blind. But is not a nerf, is called SPACED ARMOR, and works that way with crappy gun like T59 have, ROF is not a good thing if you dont aim really well and assault at close combat, but the true is that a Tier 8 MED shouldn't go on a heavy T10 alone, nor T9, and is still easy to kill a T8 heavy. Again, where is the nerf? the spaced armor or the need to aim yo certain tanks? is always been that way with the crappy 100mm gun.
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-before we got so many "dings" from the tiers below us in frontal armor/now even a T4 unit penetrates our frontal armor(amazing huh?)
What Tier 4 dings you??? how? please, show me a video of T4 dings! I could claim I ding loltractor, but words means nothing, and I'm sure it could happen, but as many times to be a problem? again spaced armor change means sometimes we have those amazing moments. NERF? no, spaced armor AGAIN.
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-before we got so many "dings" in our turret/now we get penetrated like they were hitting me in the back of the tank
When faced to better guns (T10-T9 that before the new MM we not face), the usual thing is that you need to cover all the tank, and dont be so confy with the turret dings. But when faced to the same MM as before (T8 and below) Turret is invulnerable as it was, again, show me proof of S70 dinging consistently before (S70 is in IS4 and we could face it before), or show me a continuous pen with a Heavy T8 or Med T8, or below as you claim. Nerf? no, new MM and need to adapt soon to the new big enemies.
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-before we didn't got so often "blowed up"/now you have to pray that a T5 doesn't blows your T59 when you meet him face to face
All tanks have their ammoracks HP reduced, is not only a type thing, is a general change that was in notes and you can see all tanks blowed up more easily. The real pain is, like I write just a few post before, russian and type have their ammo racks weak point so exposed, (like germans have their motors, and USA have the modules) we had to be cautious before, and even more now. Nerf? no, is a general change, HP ammorack reduced in all tanks, of course, type included.
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-before we didn't got so many ammo racks penetration/now we get ammo rack penetrated even when we're sitting face to face with our opponents(with wet ammo rack)
Again the same, and I add, WAR doesn't make you invulnerable, just make you less vulnerable, is not the same. And please, I want to see a Ammo explosion faced to the enemy, because front faced is the only side you havent got ammo weak point. Nerf? no, general change as the point before.
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-before we had a good acceleration/now we barely accelerate faster than a Tiger II - I really was amazed to see that I was driving my T59 once and was climbing a hill and a VK 4502(A) was climbing the same hill next to me as fast as I was...WOW amazing!!!
I haven't noticed that our crappy acceleration is now crappier than before, VK 4502A is a FAST tank, in fact is the fastest before IS3, and the KT thing is just exagerated...probably because of the whole new MM and the impresion you now have a worse thing than in the past, but is just in your mind, our acc always have been crappy, nerfing more should be imposible. Nerf? I havent noticed it was worse now, and I play the type every day. I go with the overall impresion you have a worse tank now, so acc and all seems way worse.
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-before we could compare T59's acceleration with T 44's,tho the T 44 was a bit better at that/now T44 is like a sports car accelerating and the T59 like a family car...WOW again!
We never, and I repeat...NEVER!! have the T44 acc, by far, T44 elited is been always way better that the type in acc, and now is a way better with the new gun. But again, new MM makes types from bully to bullied, and the overall impresions is that they get nerfed, when the real thing is that they face big guys now.
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And really,about the income boost?Is it really there implemented?Because to be honest with all of what I mentioned above,I really notice a huge "-"(minus) in the income which T59 made before and what is making now.
Continue play the type and learn to face those big T10 and T9, and you will improve your gains more than it was before, first battles in those T10-T9 rounds get me crazy, as I cant deal dmg as I could in T8 battles, but once you adapt (and type drivers need to do it faster) the credit income start to flow again with no problems.
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And why do you people have to pass the blame to the MM ? Who complained about that?I didn't say anything about MM,and I didn't complained that I'm playing a lot of matches vs T10 units when I go with my T59...it's ok,it doesn't bother me at all.
It bother when all the nerf claim have it's roots in the new MM and how we feel we are not the alpha dog in the battles, we could be now in the bottom side, and been in the bottom means harder games and a need to start learning how to play. You dont bother to be there, maybe true, but you claim you can dmg them from sides, than you get pen easily in the turret, and mostly all your "nerfs" in the post; so I think it bother you more that you really think, you have the worst tank in those battles, or close to the worst, but before you were the best or close to the top tank in the randoms...is a totally different way to play, and when a driver struggles to succed, then most of them thinks in the Ninja Nerf, when in fact is a Fail to adapt.
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I hope that someone who has an older movie,let's say how it was the T59 before Christmas to link it here and I'll make another one on how is it now so you can't come anymore and tell us that 99% of the T59 users have paranoya.
Is not a paranoia, is just that they are in a diff MM, and is a big step up. I hope someone links 2 similar battles (at top tier with type) where you could see a difference.
So, the NERF is the result of:
-Spaced Armor and the new dinamic in ballistic.
-MM in tier 10 like any other T8 Med
-Reduced HP for modules in all tanks.
None of them are Ninja Nerf, they are in notes, and they affect all the tanks.
I hope this time I was polite enough to all the drivers, those that claim the NN exist and those how claims is tha lack of adaptation to MM and other general changes.
Start using your brain as soon as posible please, is not such a big effort and Type drivers that make a fast adaptation to the MM and he HP reduced in mods (and that's not ninja, it have been said dozens of times...) will stop been rude. Is embarrasing to read so many people complaining about the "new" type, when is the same type.
So.....any other Ninja Nerf you want to be "disclosed" with a clear explanation?
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I have some pictures showing the front plates being damaged in all areas.
Well by now you must know where i stand, I basically stand in the direction of the vehicle has been secretly nerfed its a theory that is true and not true as both sides cant really prove anything, Even you yourself cant prove they never did anything so we are both flipping a coin always and always each side has 2 sides to tell.
I mean yeah i admit i might of been a baby now and again about some thing i never liked about the type but i paid a good bit of money for the tank over £30 at least supposedly i think i spent more than that anyway.
I think you have to debate here if you believe one person or the other and me, Well i just dont catch on i dont take anyones side as i take my own side.
To be honest like i said above it went from the best in my garage to the worst tank.
You can make me look bad all day to be honest, but please if your going to pull things out at least show the sides of whats being said not just what i said.
Well by now you must know where i stand, I basically stand in the direction of the vehicle has been secretly nerfed its a theory that is true and not true as both sides cant really prove anything, Even you yourself cant prove they never did anything so we are both flipping a coin always and always each side has 2 sides to tell.
I mean yeah i admit i might of been a baby now and again about some thing i never liked about the type but i paid a good bit of money for the tank over £30 at least supposedly i think i spent more than that anyway.
I think you have to debate here if you believe one person or the other and me, Well i just dont catch on i dont take anyones side as i take my own side.
To be honest like i said above it went from the best in my garage to the worst tank
.You can make me look bad all day to be honest, but please if your going to pull things out at least show the sides of whats being said not just what i said.
