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lomach #21 Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:21 PM

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Here is an interesting one...

Haynes - Owners Workshop Manual - Tiger Tank

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DKWK #22 Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:07 PM

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Well been awhile since I did find new stuff so I might give it a try again, never know what is out there still :)
Hope people still enjoy this thread, and perhaps some new tankers to.

CauldronBorn #23 Posted 14 February 2013 - 04:15 PM

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Great finds!

I am seeking one particular manual:

Its a German manual, done in that Tiger/Panther-Fibel syle. It is a small reminder for the infantry about the pros and cons of different German tank types. It explains the differences between TDs, Stugs, SPGs, MBTs, etc. Prolly issued in 43 or 44.
It is available as pdf somewhere in the internet, cause I had it on one of my older pc's and I downloaded it somewhere.
Any idea (or did I even miss it here in that thread?)

KawaGreen #24 Posted 14 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

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How to hotwire a tank? Keep it coming  :Smile_great:

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Great Thread :Smile_Default:

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StickyFinger #26 Posted 14 February 2013 - 05:52 PM

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View Postlomach, on 01 October 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Here is an interesting one...

Haynes - Owners Workshop Manual - Tiger Tank

Just take care over the copyright stuff my friend  :Smile_Default: Totally realise it was done with all good intentions :Smile_Default:

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View PostCauldronBorn, on 14 February 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

I am seeking one particular manual:

Its a German manual, done in that Tiger/Panther-Fibel syle. It is a small reminder for the infantry about the pros and cons of different German tank types. It explains the differences between TDs, Stugs, SPGs, MBTs, etc. Prolly issued in 43 or 44.
It is available as pdf somewhere in the internet, cause I had it on one of my older pc's and I downloaded it somewhere.
Any idea (or did I even miss it here in that thread?)

That would be Merkblatt 18b/38 Panzer hilfen Dir, published 1944-09-15. You can find scans at http://www.panzernet...enty/helfen.php. Good-quality reproductions are quite readily available online.

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View PostTrackAttackerDK, on 14 February 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

That would be Merkblatt 18b/38 Panzer hilfen Dir, published 1944-09-15. You can find scans at http://www.panzernet...enty/helfen.php. Good-quality reproductions are quite readily available online.
Thank you very much! (+1)
It was hard to find since I couldn't remember its name. I tried google with things like "waffengattungen" "gepanzerte Kampfwagen" etc. And I couldn't find it as a whole pdf.

StickyFinger #30 Posted 15 February 2013 - 12:16 AM

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To join in then

British Army AFV markings and codes.....

1954
http://www.mediafire...onhotemd64bwbn1

1975
http://www.mediafire...942i0fmjotodbyr

1952(1)
http://www.mediafire...dujc4inzuaa4nmy

1952(2)
http://www.mediafire...0r2w831o9slcu1v

1959
http://www.mediafire...u2cd2h8738xkkxc

1962
http://www.mediafire...k6p7kbcg4pabkq6

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You're most welcome. I unfortunately only have a reproduction of this particular manual. Scanning the larger manuals I have, without destroying the spine, it almost impossible. That's why I prefer to collect photographs :)

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With the name of that thing "Panzer helfen Dir" I was able to find a complete pdf. :-)

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View PostKawaGreen, on 14 February 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

How to hotwire a tank? Keep it coming  :Smile_great:

Well that would very interesting, but I doubt that its more like highjacking a tank then :)

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Thanks, as a old Guy that did serve 10 Years in the Army, and allways been into war stuff,  I like to see the real document/book's so hope this thread do return with more as time goes, and perhaps one day get's pinned to.

View PostTrackAttackerDK, on 14 February 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

That would be Merkblatt 18b/38 Panzer hilfen Dir, published 1944-09-15. You can find scans at http://www.panzernet...nty/helfen.php. Good-quality reproductions are quite readily available online.

Yes that is a good one, I had lost that book myself :) so +1

View PostStickyFinger, on 15 February 2013 - 12:16 AM, said:


They are not from WW 2, but anyway nice reading, so +1 from me.
Shame that this one http://forum.worldof...tanks-strategy/ was archived, as it was also a nice try about after WW 2 time.

Well I better get back to looking again, and to all that help in this topic, a great +1.
I just wish I could give more then 5+ away, each day sometimes.

Greenh0rn #34 Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:52 PM

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Hi

i have some but they are all in hungarian languange
Pz 38(t) gunnery manual
https://dl.dropbox.c...övész könyv.rar
Pz 38(t) drivers manual
https://dl.dropbox.c.../sofőrkönyv.rar


Here is the manual for the L-60 (the licence of this tank later bought by Hungary and was produced under the name of 38M. Toldi the Toldi's manual is the same)
https://dl.dropbox.c...nyagismeret.rar

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Greenh0rn I dont think that matter so much if they are not in English.
Better we can see and read them is the plus, so I give You a +1 for adding them to this thread :)

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Nice, thanks a lot for the documents guys!

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Sorry but this is not an compleat manual sadly i lost the full :( but there is the rar file what i sended to the swedish tank museum
https://dl.dropbox.c...64395/toldi.rar

abaut the toldi

i tried to transle it (well my english sucs a little bit)

DSCF1744-it is a draw from the drivers position
DSCF1746-this is the Büssing NAG Type L8V/36TR engine
DSCF1748-this is the 38M main gun optic
DSCF1749 and DSCF1750-is want to presentate the aiming mechanism
DSCF1751-the process of setting the wheels
Kép (9)-the 34/37M Gebauer mg and the shield/holding mechanism (this is how they bulted int the mg in the Toldi)
Kép (10)-is present the electric things at the back wall of the Toldi
Kép (11)-this shows what they modified on the 36M heavy rifle
Kép(12) (13)- this show the parts of the main gun optic
Kép (14)- on the left side you se the lamp of the optic (if the gunner wanted they can luminate the aiming lines in the optic) on the right the optic itself but placed in it's place (sorry for my very bad "English")
Kép (15)-it tell us what is what in the drivers position
Kép (16)-is the side cut view of the Toldi
Kép (17)- i hope you know what this should be
Kép (18)- this shows the difference between the old and the new version of the drivers panel
Kép (19) (20) is the data for the 38M toldi
összerakott 36m- i just packed the side viev of the 36M heavy rifle (it has got it's own book) just to show how it looked like
toldi optika- this is how the optic should be calibrated and the wiev of the aiming lines


and here is the translation for Kép (19;20) ((technical data))

                                                                                    Main parameters and weight data
The tanks maximum lenght (the tank is not precise the german Kampfwagen is closer for it)    4750mm
    " width 2140mm
    " height to the top of the turret    1872mm
The distance between the bottom of the tank and the ground    350mm
The width of the tracs    286mm
Weight whit combat load and crews    8,5t
Ground pressure   0,5kg/cm2
Engine
Number of cilinders     8
Diameter of the cilinders?*stroke (the distance what the cilinder moves?)    107*110
Cilinder capacity     7,913 l (this should be 7913 cm3 i think)
Presure rate   1:5,25
Maximum RPM   3000
Maximum horse power at 2700 RPM    155
Maximum momentum of inertia at 1000RPM     48kgm(?)
Fuel usage     256g/HP per hour
dont know the name but this oil is for to prevent overheating the cilinders    0,5l/100km
Liding (?) order of the cilinders    1 2 7 3 4 5 6 8
   Gearbox
1. speed transmission    1:8,94  
2.    "   "     1:4,55
3.    "   "     1:2,53
4.    "   "     1:1,43
5.    "   "     1:1
Backward    "     1:8,65  
The turning wheels transmission 1:1,85
I am not sure but maybe the wheel wat move the tracs 1:4,27  
Using (?) datas
Maximum speed at 3000 RPM
Maximum weight (what the tank can move)
Service lenght
Clibing ability
1. speed
2.   "
3.   "
4.   "
5.   "
Backward   
The higest angle what the tank can climb in good conditons
Maximum angel what the tank can turn at it's side whidout causing and upside down tank :)
Maximum heght what the tank can climb
Maximum distance (over trech)
Maximum height of water(?)
The smallest turning radius

  Fuel reseervs
In the engine    22l cooling water
In the cooling system
In the fuel tanks   253l gas (benzin)
In the oil tanks  (this is that cilinder preventer oil)
In the gearbox
in the steering wheel and its component
sorry dont have any idea how to translate this because i dont have any idea what it means in hungarian :(

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I've found the gun data/performance book for the 43.M Tank gun what was in the Hungarian prototype tanks (Turán 43M or most common known Turán III and the Zrínyi 75 or Zrínyi I and experts here say the prototype Tas what was destroyed in 1944  was fitted whit this gun also) but sadly i lack the space on my dropbox so i cannot upload it there so i neeed another solution for that

also i made some pictures from the 40M Nimród but i am not shure i shuld post those pictures in this forum


And really sorry for my "English"

Edited by Greenh0rn, 27 February 2013 - 11:30 AM.


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I have server space available on my website, and would be happy to host some World War II-related files for you. Send me a PM if you're interested.

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So thanks to Christian you can get the 43.M antitank/tank gun http://www.tanksinwo...m/documents.php data book

I hope some devs are reading this forum since the All-Euro tank tree has hHungarian tanks (i really want to see Hungarian tanks in WoT as soon as possible) so in this book you just can find everything abaut this gun penetation ballistics etc so devs plz use these datas for hun tanks and dont nerf them. I even want to help so if there is need i can go to the military archives and take photo of manuals like these.

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