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UPDATED test#3 March22

The stats below are given as [current 7.1] - [7.2test#1] - [7.2 test#2] - [7.2 test#3].
Beware that 7.1 stats are recalculated from 133% to 100% to be comparable with 7.2 norms.
EDIT: In my original post I had divided 7.1 values with 1.33. It appears more correct to multiply with 0.875, but there seems to be some controversy about the exact method recalculation (133% to 100%, or 114.3% to 100%).

ROF: 5.73 - 4.38 - 4.14 - 4.00(-30%)

Aiming time : 2.63 - 2.9 - 3.4 - 3.4 (-29%)

Turret traverse: 31.5 - 25 - 18 - 18 (-43%, big nerf)

Hull traverse: 28 - 25 - 24 - 22 (-22%)

View Range: 368 - 367 - 360 - 360 (-2%)

But accuracy is buffed:

Accuracy: 0.40 - 0.40 - 0.35 - 0.35 (+13%)


This is rape.

UPDATE March 23. Storm confirms that test#3 values are final:

 Ronin81, on 23 March 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

Thanks to Ronin81 for the find.


Seems the only way to play the T34 Rapeium Premium is:
EQUIPMENT
-Vent
-Rammer
-Vertical Stabilizer (a must IMHO).

CREW SKILLS
Commander - Recon/Sixth Sense
       (view range buff is needed, but binoculars is a waste of slot)
Gunner - DesignatedTarget/SnapShot  
     (See targets long enough to aim fully.. / Faster aiming)
Driver - SmoothRide/ClutchBraking  
     (Improved Accuracy / Increased Hull traverse)
Radioman - Situation Awareness / Repair  
     (Again, view range buff / Repair needed)
Loader1 - Safe Stowage / Repair
          (Maybe not too high risk reduction but loader skills are a bit lame IMHO)
Loader2 - Adrenaline Rush (=useless) / Repair / Firefighting?
          (You will be at 10% or lower often, I imagine..)

What are your crew choices?

just played it and its still not bad

Felt slow but I liked it, as just tested. 3 kills (teams of 8), 2 medals and a win. Suits you, sir.

guys... what did you think lol? Löwe and Type 59 players started to cry almost when they saw the testpatch. look this is a totally free premium tank for it's owners so I think we shouldn't whine of it's nerf... try to imagine that situatin when T23 players got only replace with preshing... they didn't get T23 as premium and we get T34 and you are posting the bad points of it :/? be happy

Well atleast the T23 wasn't totally underpowered for over a year. I expect some form of buff to it compared to what it is now on the test server. Give it the old RoF back (4.4 rpm) or reverse the aimtime nerf or the turret traverse/mobility nerf. If it gets one of these back I'm willing to accept it. Right now it's pretty shit, and it's only saving grace is the ability to make decent cash, but I have a feeling playing 2-3 tier 5-6 in turns gives more cash compared to T34 as is.

still, each punch from that cannon of doom serves up 400 dmg at a penetration of 248mm
not bad for a tier 8 tank

Accuracy in test2 is buffed alot, current 0.35 translates to about 0.31 "old".
Also "new 360m" equals to "old 410m" viewrange, slight reduction here.
Aim time went from 2.3s to 2.5s (test1) to 3s in test2. Clear nerf.
Reload is nerfed too, from 5.71 do 4.14 in "new" format

Tank itself is hit quite hard by nerfbat, but thinking it will go unchanged from Tier 9 to 8 "because its crappy T34" is foolish.
This tank still have its main selling points - 248mm pen, 400dmg and excellent hull down at Tier 8 - good luck finding similar stats in a tank, not TD. Hell, even TD don't have reliable hull down

So, stop whining. It is premium tank, meant to print money, not stat padding. And main factor of printing money - dealing damage is the best in T34
If you want statpad, go get Frenchkiss H38 or its twin, H35. Or Marder.

t34 on live server is a piece of shit whose only purpose i believe is to portray the myth that everything russian is better then anything american ( only other reason for its existance is stupidity)

you have a gun on it that was reasonable in your tier 7 T29 , crap in your T32 and now you have to use this same gun against enemies who hopelessly out gun you and who you struggle to hurt for 100k of experience  until it may be upgraded , and even then it is considered the weakest tier 9 heavy .

I assumed it had been realised how crap it is , hence it becoming a premium tank ( my only reason to own it ) , I assumed that its replacement would be a tank that at least can compete against other tier 9 heavies.

 Panocek, on 16 March 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

Just... 38H735 (f) is no longer available.

I honestly don't care about the nerf. I will play that tank to make money and that's all. It will definitely yield more profit than when it was a regular Tier 9 heavy so it's all good.

 NateBlack, on 16 March 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

Well if you cant accept this, WG gave you option to sell all tanks for credits so you can do same with this one

I still think it will be nice and fun tank to drive.
Yes they are nerfing it, but we cant really expect it to be same as it was as tier9.
Look on positive side, it will have powerful gun that can penetrate tier10 tanks with no problem (unless they nerfed pen of that gun also ).

It will me similar to T29, at least seam like that, with more HP , slower ROF but better gun.
Reality is they cant make it better than other premium tanks, some balance will have to be made, and personaly i cant wait to try it out as i love US tanks and i loved it as tier9.

 war4peace, on 16 March 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

Aren't those WoT box editions contain code to get one + some gold?

T34 seems fine even with nerfs,  but 3.4 aimtime???

 TopSecret81, on 16 March 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

The whole point here is that it never was worthy of the tier9 designation, hence got placed to tier8 where it may fit better. An IS4 eats the T34 up every single time, unless the T34 driver somehow possesses the skill of moving a hill ahead of him and stays hull down while moving.

Seriously, the fact that the main flaw of 'hull down' is not apparent to more people is just astonishing to me. First of all, hull down is a defensive position, which in WoT terms mean "camping". Camping works very few times, against enemies that attack 1 by 1 (happens 10 times out of 100 perhaps). How do you attack in "hull down" ? how do you push forward in a city? Over a plain?

Anyway. Talking about tank stats - show me even ONE stat where T34 as a tierIX was better than say the IS4. And here is the hilarious thing. The T34 gets repositioned to tier8 - gets nerfed. And IS4 gets repositioned to tier10 - and gets buffed even more ?? That's comedy for you.

  

PS. For all of you that see this thread as a "flame"/"rage" whatever thread - My point was to put up the actual data of the nerfs because they aren't available through WG channels. DS

Well i just played with it and it;s ok to me. Besides i will get one free of charge.

Well in my opinion the t34 was a great t9 tank. It just needed played ninja style But seriously its strengths that made it good at tier 9 had to be nerfed for its tier8 role. And as i said after playing, it(test p v2) may have less hp, slower in everything etc but it still has a massive gun. The shell travels fast, is accurate and does a ton of damage. That makes for a very profitable prem tank.

I guess if u liked the the t34 at t9 then u will be drooling when it becomes prem is all i can say

T34 will be a good tank, However my Type 59 will eat this peice of crap alive now thank you WG yet another tasty meal for my Type 59  


And yes i already have the T34 & T30 in my garage so STFU.

 xpnotoc, on 16 March 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

mate, T34 is good tank as tier 9 but only when in full, tho to get there 105 gun is just simple inadequate so many players have bad starts because of it. If that tank had starting gun with 220pen thats similar to bl9 and best gun for tiger2, grinding trou it would be much more fun than good old 105 :/
One important stat T34 has better than any Rus or Gerry tank is gun depression,t34 and other US climbs hill with gun first, gerry and Rus with gun aiming in World of WarPlanes , thats one important stat i love US tanks, not flaming just responding on your question
Hull down can be used in attack as most maps have some place to protect it, just look at maps as "sand river, steps, swamp, prohkorovka etc", tho tank lack ability to fight close fight from 10m as simple he has no armor to assault any tier9 if that tank is just behind corner waiting..
Tho i respect opinion that most players had it difficult with it and i might be one of few who love that tank and actually did well with it.

All im saying even tho i have china and lowe i cant wait for t34 to be premium, i just hope it will have similar earning power as other premium tanks.

Sorry, but I'm more than happy that it kept its original damage and penetration. And you can't really ask for awesome aiming time and reload coupled with that at tier 8, and to top it all, on a premium tank! The tank rocks credit-wise, and that is actually all that I care about.

 DerRizerPin, on 16 March 2012 - 02:03 AM, said:

In your dreams  

Most of type drivers still didnt realize that they need wet ammo rack, i hope you installed one as you might go "ka-boom" every time you see t34  

 DerRizerPin, on 16 March 2012 - 02:03 AM, said:

Heh... Possibly until you meet some experienced T34 driver. One of those who could stop mass of T-54 when they introduced.