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I've played all the tier 8 mediums (apart from the Type 59), and of the lot for my playstyle, I found the T44 lacking. Sure, it got good speed and agility, but the armour is a tad too weak and the gun doesn't have the stopping power of the others.

For hit and run tactics, and getting to contested positions first in a round, the T44 is perfect. In later stages of the game, it is also very good for arty-hunting (a favourite sport of mine). But for the mid-game slugging matches, the Pershing and even Lorry does a better job, simply because their guns are near guranteed to punch through just about everything except the odd IS4 or Maus.

For me the clincher is the "Type 59" test. In a T44 it is a toss up between the two, who comes out winning depends on skill and condition of the tank before the engagement. Lorry (with a full clip) and Pershing however, will maul the Type 59. The Panther II will as well, just as long as it doesn't get too close.

But ofcourse, more aggressive players that like to be all over the map, will probably love the T44.

 Zieten, on 25 March 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

It has better armor than Panther 2   , the armor on  T 44 bounces more   and   Panther 2 has an ammo rack in every part of the tank (as does the Panther)

Hi!
It has been quite some time when I played T44, but I distinctly remember being penetrated by just about everything that hit me. I also remember the gun being nearly useless vs. tier-9 and 10 tanks, whom I've regularly meet. And I also remember getting at the spotting position, just to be dislodged 5-10 seconds later by an nearly-as-fast-as-T44 IS-7.

With current map design meds really can't play the way they were designed in real life. It's a pain to say, but if you want speed, agility, survivability and firepower, you need to play tier-10 IS-7. :(  Bad WG!

BR,  Iztok
Edited by iztok, 20 May 2012 - 11:32 AM.

 iztok, on 20 May 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

You are comparing apples to oranges. Ofcourse the T44 will do poorly going head to head against any tank higher tiered than itself. None of the tier 8 mediums will make a tier 10 heavy driver think twice about engaging it. Unlike the tier 9 mediums, who given some favourable conditions will do serious damage to any tier 10 heavy.

Now, I'll grant that the IS7 is the ultimate "medium" tank in the game. But it is far from invoulnerable. Anyone with some experience will know how to take it down using just about any tier 9 and 10 tank. Even tier 8 tanks with a 200+ pen gun will put a serious dent into IS7 no problem at all.

But you are right that maps in WoT are a bit too small for the mediums to really shine. The flanking options are limited, and there usually isn't all that much room to manouver. Which kind of negates the speed advantage of the mediums.

I am so tired of these discussions on which tank has a better something. Play your tank's strengths and downplay your flaws. And please... stop these uselless tank comparison threads.

 AnuSuaraj, on 20 May 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

Then you won't find much use in the forum then, will you?!

BYEEEE

Also, a page ago KillerTomate said something stupid about Panther II / T-44 aim-time but I can't be arsed to,
A) prove him wrong
B) check in order to spell his name correctly

I still don't have my T-44 elited, but it is really much like the Pershing. It only trades its gun depression for mobility. When it was stock it was horrible. It was horrible for a long time, but better engine and gun have fixed it.
Side note: I don't have any problems with ammo-racking. I am not using safe stowage neither WAR.

T44 is good but still ranks as worst of tier 8 meds. Unless sighting and radio range matters more than armour to you.
Its inferior to type in every way that matters. Depends which tier 9 you are aiming at ultimately.
Still good/fun/playable even though worst of the 5

 swamp_thing, on 20 May 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

No, the T-44 isn't the worst tier 8 medium.
Ever circled an IS-3 to death?
Ever circled a Panther II to death while driving backwards keeping it tracked and not taking a single hit?

The type wins when it comes to brawling or hull down play, but in the open field it gets murdered, and when fighting other tanks the T-44 performs better. The Type is better at taking hits, but who plays a medium tank to take hits?

The Panther II has a better gun, but it's stupidly big and even the T-44 can penetrate it easily from 400m away. It can't do anything but supporting and sniping because it gets spotted and dies if it does anything else. Because it's so huge and easy to hit I've managed to beat them 1v1 at sniping just because the T-44 can dodge long range shots and has decent odds when it comes to bouncing with it's small profile and lack of spots to aim at from range.

The pershing is better, due to it being versatile as well. It's armor isn't stronger but it has more health. The gun is about the same. You get a tiny amount of damage and penetration in trade of accuracy and RoF, compared to the T-44. So tell me, how is the pershing far above the T-44? More health vs more mobility... I'd pick mobility.

I wouldn't compare the lorraine to the T-44. Lorraine is more about burst where the T-44 gives constant pressure. If a lorraine ends up in a bad spot with low ammo it's screwed. It's also huge and tier 5s can penetrate it. They serve completely different roles. And yes, a T-44 can survive a full clip if you care about 1v1 situations, especially if one shot misses or bounces. And it can chase down a lorraine just fine. But again, completely different tanks.


People underestimate how important mobility is. After 288 matches I still have a 49% survival rate. That should tell you enough. Around 1450 damage per match, which is by no means bad.

I love my T44, fully upgraded it is a murderer pur sang. And yes, I have played all other Tier 8 mediums (including Type) except the Lorry. The T44 needs to be played aggressively, like a T50-2 on steroids. Sure, you get killed at times, but more often than not you can be a real game-changer. I love being in the top 5 of the MM with this, it is guaranteed 3 kills and over 1200 XP. When in the bottom of the pile it is still a very good scout and support tank. I don't really fear anything in this tank, except for a pair of Type's, but then a pair of type's can kill anything if they play together well.

The biggest advantage over both the Pershing and the PII (great tanks as well btw) is its size, you can really take a gamble on shots flying over you if you run around the enemy. Stick a WAR in and get your loader to have the stowage skill and you are free from the dreaded instant death ammo rack explosion as well. in recent days I have been playing it quite a bit and I went from 85k XP to 120k XP in under 30 matches.

Can I do this with the T-44? :

Rush to hidden spot.
Snipe incoming mediums.
Relocate to city and brawl with 100hp left after arty hit me.

 SlicerDicer, on 22 May 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

lol, actually...


Yesterday I had a match on Fisherman's Bay. Started north, and after seeing most of the enemy team in town I rushed the western flank. Fought a jagdpanther by mostling circling it, and when it was almost dead one of the hummels on my team decided to shoot it. Instead, it hit me on the back of my T-44 and took me down to around 300 HP. The jagdpanther got one more shot off on me and took me to under 100 health. Finished it off, then got attacked by a T34-85 which missed all it's shots, two Stugs which used HE and ended up with horrible luck taking me to 26 HP before dying. Hunted their 2 artillery before realizing I was the only one left on that side. Went all the way back to base, where the 2 remaining teammembers were, both hummels. Shot a T-150 coming in spotted by a hummel, then ran further around our own spawn. Shot a T-29 to 400 health before a hummel shot it and finished it off. Managed to get close to their KV-4 and circled it to death with 4 shots and then killed their last remaining grille. All that with 26 HP.

http://i235.photobuc...t_/shot_007.jpg

Can you put some replay ??

Sadly, I don't record my good games. I suck balls whenever I turn the recorder on.

I find the T-44 to be awesome, the penetration isn't so bad you can penetrate most things, those you can't you use your speed and agility to hit them from the sides. My best shot ammo racking a IS-8 from the front as a snap shot. Not sure who was more surprised!

I have yet to be ammo racked in the T-44, fuel tanks are very weak for some reason and these get damaged all the time. Armour is OK, comparable to same tier tanks and if you are constantly moving and shifting angle with the sharp front and of course low profile you can survive for some time. Unlike the German barn on tracks that is the Panther II.

 suhmih79, on 22 May 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Decided to try a match with recording on, and managed to get my 2nd steel wall medal as well as breaking 2k xp again. Recording does screw with my ping though, goes from 40ish to 100+, which makes it harder to play well. Either way this is a decent showcase of what a T-44 is capable of, and why it's so much fun to play.

Site: http://www.wot-repla...-22052012221540
Direct download link: http://wot-replays.o...21540.wotreplay

I like my T-44, it's a good fast tank but when kill whore heavies take the "normal" med paths on certain maps you get screwed without support. And the grind to make it elite was horrible, the idiot gun doesn't belong in tier 8 or higher battles.
Forget panthers and pershings. How do you deal with goddamn "250 dmg every second" Lorraine. They seem to be oblivious to the fact that you're supposed to have some sort of frontal armor.
And you can't circle of doom an IS-3. I already tried that, and I've also driven the IS-3 back in the day. Types and T-44s stand no chance vs BL9 armed IS-3. I guess that's the way it should be by default anyway, but interestingly, IS-3 is a menace while Lowe/KV5/KT aren't. These are so easy to kill in a normal 1vs1 scenario.

Bit of an ammo rack on wheels if you ask me...

Cobra 6

Best t8 medium I've tried, tried all but lorraine of the non premiums, been ammoracked once in 100 matches. Decent gun (not stellar, but ok), awsome mobility, decent armor, can get some lucky bounces if angling front.

 suhmih79, on 22 May 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

http://www.wot-repla...25718.wotreplay

This is from last night on my main account (Russian server).

7 kills, victory, and survived.
Edited by Bulcsu, 24 May 2012 - 07:45 PM.