Scaria, on 01 June 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

and talking about the T-72.... please you really consider the "Lion of Babylon" firing Steel rod shells as a T-72???

Yes, T54/55, Type59 /69 and Lions were crushed by M1A1 and challegers of course. Don't you think a T-90 will crush old M60, Chieftains and 80" Abrams?

even high tech ammo would not have helped the Iraqis because modern western tanks have much better optics and sensors allowing them to pick out targets at much greater ranges

in Greece tank trails the M1 Leo2 Challenger2 Leclerc faced top of the line east europen tank stuff... T-84 and T-80UE

the operational and technical score board

1. Leo2 A5

2. M1A2

3. Leclerc

4. Challenger 2E

5. T-84

6. T-80UE

shooting score

first hit %

Leo2 over 80%

Leclerc 65%

T-84 47%

Challenger 2E 40%

T-80UE and M1A2 numbers were not allowed to be published but it is known that the M1 performed on Leo2 level and T-80UE on T-84 level

There is a reason why top of the line (at the date of the greece tank trails) T-80 variations come out last and second last..